1970 Monte Carlo SS 454 LS5, # match Blk/Blk/Blk

[69LM1]

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Just got my hackles up Marlin that is all. Just because 37 years later we cannot locate one they didnot exist. BS. Unfortunately when I had my access to it I didnot know what it really was but who cared back then especially with an old Monte. They were not what we called a collector or a muscle car back in the day. In fact in my town mostly the girls and school teachers drove them.Just a car we would check for options for your chevelle and part out. I parted a couple other monte BBC also but nothing like this black one and no other 454's.Everyone today is a expert but in many cases don't have a clue what was really made expecially when you add canada to the mix.
I cannot dig right now through 35 BBc blocks to prove a point and those that know me understand why.
Sorry on the "N' I guess i should have said "Z". Regardless it was stamped right on the cowl tag. This car was produced in canada.

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1st - So, if you can't remember Z and N codes, but you can remember a xx year old block pull, but *dont* have *time* to pull and post pics of your "supposed" 4 speed monte, I don't have a whole lotta belief in this 4 speed thing.

2nd - No where did I say that there is 100% no way. If fact, I even stated that it seemed that if you knew the right people you could get almost anything.

Finally, my point stands, if there have been 4 speed Monte 402's that have shown up, why not any 4 speed SS's?

Same points with the LS6.


Bottom line. If you have the proof like you say you do, put up or shut up!

[3macs1]

- So, if you can't remember Z and N codes, but you can remember a xx year old block pull, but *dont* have *time* to pull and post pics of your "supposed" 4 speed monte, I don't have a whole lotta belief in this 4 speed thing.

2nd - No where did I say that there is 100% no way. If fact, I even stated that it seemed that if you knew the right people you could get almost anything.
Finally, my point stands, if there have been 4 speed Monte 402's that have shown up, why not any 4 speed SS's?
Same points with the LS6.


If the number I was given years ago of only 4 being produced in canada I know the faith of one what are the chances of finding one of the other three.
The codes mean nothing to me since I don't follow Monte's which is why I had the letters wrong.About 10 years after I parted the car I discovered what it was but it was too late.I remember every BBC engine I had and still have.My mind is still good thank god.And I remember like it was yesterday that code on the cowl tag which is why the guy went through all the trouble of removing the body from the woods.
Having time to pull the block it is not my problem, no strength from battling cancer is my excuse and I cannot lift even one head off the pile to look.
If you want to look I think it is buried under these heads.
http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...t=102_9977.jpg


Someday someone will clean out the barn and it is there with probally two other 70 LS-5's in that pile and more in others. You believe what you want but I know I parted a original 70 ls-5 4spd SS.I will make sure you get your vin number then so you can change the record books.

[kwhizz]

Joe has forgotten more about Big Block cars than any of us will ever know.........

Ken

[ORIGLS6]

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Joe has forgotten more about Big Block cars than any of us will ever know.........

Ken

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...........and I don't think he's forgotten all that much.

[SS427]

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Joe has forgotten more about Big Block cars than any of us will ever know.........

Ken

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Besides the fact that he too is an SS427 Impala fan makes him doubly cool! Not many of us around you know.

[3macs1]

One thing I know for sure is that you are all one great bunch of guys.

[69LM1]

At least's it's kept interesting w/o degrading into name calling....... much

Now, who's gonna buy this monte?

Rich

[69LM1]

Joe,
Sorry to hear about the cancer. I apologize and retract that request to pull the blocks.
Sincerely,

Rich

[Stefano]

Sorry to hear about the Cancer as well. Just recently coming off Chemo, I can tell you I had the strength of a new born Babe. I could barely move a big block head, much less a block. Good bless and I pray that you too win your battle.

For what it is worth, approx 13 years ago I was asked to inspect a 1970 Monte Carlo SS LS5 4 speed, for a dealer.

Even though we had never seen one before, it was no big deal. Cool car, but no big deal. Copo Chevelles and LS6s were less than $50k and people/collectors were just starting to really take notice, of those cars.

It was a triple green driver quality car. All original drivetrain, CRN code on the block, 3.31 posi, factory tach, buckets and console, no A/C.

We looked for a build sheet and were not able to find one.

The car appeared to be an original 4 speed, along with the correct dates, part numbers and stampings. The car sold for approx $8,000.00.

The dealer has long closed down and I have no idea where the car went?

Look at that '69 GP 428 4 speed that I sold earlier this year. I had mumerous emails/calls from Pontiac Guys telling me that such a car had never been built, even though other examples do exist.

[Mr70]

Joes example stands out to me,because if he can retrieve the CON VIN,(either off the block or from what's left of the vehicle itself),he can submit it to George Zapora @GM Vintage Vehicle Services in Canada for quite possibly a full confirmation.