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Old 08-30-2007, 06:05 AM
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I had a white one back in high school, loved the car lots of power and a comfortable ride. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm maybe its time to relive my past????????

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Old 08-30-2007, 10:09 AM
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A guy here in jersey SWEARS he bought a one owner 70 LS5 4-speed Monte SS back in the mid 80's and drove it. He has since sold it to someone else... so who knows.
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Old 08-30-2007, 03:30 PM
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A guy here in jersey SWEARS he bought a one owner 70 LS5 4-speed Monte SS back in the mid 80's and drove it. He has since sold it to someone else... so who knows.

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I for one despite the fact we cannot find a documented one know for sure they did exist with a 4spd since I also bought one for salvage in probally 84.It was rusted beyond repair but the drive train was 100% original.Like the one for sale it was triple black LS-5 454 4speed. I still have most of the drive train buried somewhere I would say as well as the muncie, shifter, pedals etc. It had the adjustable shocks and compressor which I just found in the last year and sold on e-bay as well as factory tack and guages, tinted glass and a AM 8 track.
Disc brakes were two piece rotors, power steering, F41 but no posi. Also had the windshield washer fluid monitoring set up. The floor hump for the shifter was factory installed for sure which was very clear when we cut it out.
Interesting part was it was a bench seat car and the only SS emblems I remember were on the fenders.
Years later after finding out some were saying the 70 monte never existed with a factory 4 spd a guy came and pulled what was left of the shell out of the woods since the vin and cowl tag was still in place and I had all the paper work but I never heard what he did with the remains.It was quite rough.
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More than likely these were BB 402 cars, and yes the "Air Ride" system that was standard on all Z20 Monte Carlo SS cars was an RPO for other cars as well. I have seen a few non SS's with this system. In all this time, there have been more than a handfull of Monte 402's with a 4 speed show up. Never a SS. Statistics alone would dictate that at least one would have shown up.

Now, if you had the "LS5" out of that car and the vins on the "454" and the 4 speed matched.............

Like I said, there are many "ghost" stories of that kind. Also, the same thing goes for a Monte SS with the LS6, plent o stories and "friends" but no one has yet to have one spring up.


Is it possible? Sure, seemed like anything was back in the day , I know I sure wish I was around and knew then what I do now!
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Guys,
More than likely these were BB 402 cars, and yes the "Air Ride" system that was standard on all Z20 Monte Carlo SS cars was an RPO for other cars as well. I have seen a few non SS's with this system. In all this time, there have been more than a handfull of Monte 402's with a 4 speed show up. Never a SS. Statistics alone would dictate that at least one would have shown up.

Now, if you had the "LS5" out of that car and the vins on the "454" and the 4 speed matched.............

Like I said, there are many "ghost" stories of that kind. Also, the same thing goes for a Monte SS with the LS6, plent o stories and "friends" but no one has yet to have one spring up.


Is it possible? Sure, seemed like anything was back in the day , I know I sure wish I was around and knew then what I do now!

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DAAAAAAAAA Joe do you think you can tell the difference between a 402 and a 454 since when you parted that car you probally had 50 BBC engines and bought the engine for a spare for your 70 ls-5 chevelle. Give me a break. I guess that old flywheel with the big weight on it you have on your bench off the monte, or the cross mount muncie shifter laying in the front seat of that old 68 impala in your barn is not real either.Nor was the N20 right on the cowl tag which is why the guy took it out of the woods.
I was told after I did some research on this car long after it was parted that there was 4 of these produced in canada so really what are the odds of one showing up. NOT.
This one was the real deal and buried in my pile of BBC and muncies I still have the engine and trans unfortunately I cannot dig through all of the stuff right now.
Believe what you want but I know different.
The 4spd 70 monte 454 lived in canada for sure
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Wow! That's throwing the smack down - where's my popcorn!
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Just got my hackles up Marlin that is all. Just because 37 years later we cannot locate one they didnot exist. BS.
Unfortunately when I had my access to it I didnot know what it really was but who cared back then especially with an old Monte. They were not what we called a collector or a muscle car back in the day. In fact in my town mostly the girls and school teachers drove them.Just a car we would check for options for your chevelle and part out. I parted a couple other monte BBC also but nothing like this black one and no other 454's.Everyone today is a expert but in many cases don't have a clue what was really made expecially when you add canada to the mix.
I cannot dig right now through 35 BBc blocks to prove a point and those that know me understand why.
Sorry on the "N' I guess i should have said "Z". Regardless it was stamped right on the cowl tag. This car was produced in canada.
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All I can say is show me the proof and I will be happy to concede. As of now, you say that you have the engine and transmission. Should be easy. Unless you are not as sure as you think you are. Also, as far as I know, there were NO codes on the Monte Carlo trim tags that showed any type of "Z"20 SS options. Don;t know what a "N"20 is?
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