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Old 06-09-2006, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: Factory Stockers Unite!!!

OHH NO here we go, the persecuted retaliate! relax Pete, I think you got a great car and you and JJ are great guys.

Maybe the stockers around here have never seen those type of ET's from "pure stockers" before. I admit was a bit sceptical myself, having LS6,L88's,LT1's,RAIV's, among many others in my own personal stable as well.

I find the whole conversation amusing though. I live down the block from one of the most revered Icons of this website. In fact I painted some of his creations across the street as I was a painter working in a body shop. I spent time at his house and spoke with him on many, many occassions.

His passion was Pontiacs and Big Block Chevy's. His name was Joel Rosen, maybe you heard of him. Funny thing was back in the day he had this guy who worked for him as a mechanic, his name was Bill Mitchell. Maybe youv'e heard of him. You see these guys could tune a Chevy like nobody else in the country could, and they had their own dyno right here on Sunrise Hwy at their shop known as Motion Performance. Many local track records were held by Joel back in the day with his 427 engines that he transplanted into Camaro's. If you had the funds you could even buy one yourself. These came from Baldwin Chevrolet which was 1 mile away, NOT next door as always erroneously reported here and other places.

Funny thing though, Joel and Bill Mitchell, couldn't seem to get those 427 Camaro's with Headers, Slicks, Tractions Bars, CD Ignitions, and super Dyno Tunes near the times now being reported by ...ahem... "pure stock" cars without the benefit of any aftermarket mods and tires.

Geez such a shame that Bill Mitchell and Joel Rosen couldn't read the Dyno correctly huh??
All they had to do then was take the showroom driven Camaro throw a few stickers on it and blast down the quarter mile on stock tires to 11 seconds. WOW!!! wonder how they missed that??
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Hmmm. there is no doubt todays replacement parts are better,and so are tire compounds. That much better??? I think not.

I don't mind people claiming they are near stock or certified 4 years ago or whatever their story is...I don't care. But if you come down with a car that is heads and shoulders above the rest in performance and seems to be out of the ordinary, then just be prepared to back it up. thats all. Otherwise you and you alone set yourself up for this type of "abuse". Its not anyones elses fault that they are sceptical. Its up to you to prove them wrong. If you don't do that but constantly bad mouth the race or the other competitors...anything to deflect why your car runs as fast as it does, then I say you are not fooling anyone other than yourself. Its a stupid argument.

If you have a near stocker that can pass the test then bring it down and pass it for krissakes. The test is certainly more liberal then a tear down, and takes 10 minutes. By all means shut your critics up..if you have the means to. Who wouldn't want to do that??
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