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Hey Sully,I own a collision repair facility & have a basf paint system. When i do a restoration & paint the firewall Or refinish frames,suspension,rearends,wheelhouses ect.,I use a Spies Hecker product called FP1004 Ralley Matt black . It is a single stage that dries between a dull & semi finish & is very durable.A local restoration shop turned me onto this a few years ago.Hope this helps, Jeff
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Jeff, From all the misc restos and articles I have seen or read over many years I am thinking a black "between dull & semi" is not shiny enough to replicate original. I used Delstar Acrylic Enamel with various amounts of flattner. I am not happy with durability and will change to ?? next time. I also used DP-90 as primer and am thinking maybe an etch primer or ? would have been a better foundation for the black. Difficult area to get correct, if you intend to drive a car, even occassionally.
I also offer pics taken of a SuperCar Workshop COPO and a Chuck Huber frame, which appears "duller" than Original ? ![]() ![]() ![]() Chuck Sharin 69 below with DelStar Acrylic Enamel before driving....... ![]() ![]() [IMG] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/C...Paint.jpg[/IMG] ![]()
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Chuck Sharin [email protected] Auburn,WA (30 miles South of Seattle) 70 Camaro R/S Z-28, L-78, R/S SS 69 Camaro COPO "recreation" |
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The amount of gloss in the factory blacks depending on a lot of things, plant, person, temp & humidity being a few. I don't think there is a perfect sheen to strive for.
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Marlin 70 Yenko Nova-350/360, 4speed M21, 4.10 Posi (Daddy's Ride) 69 SS Nova-396/375hp, 4speed M20, 3.55 Posi (Benjamin's Ride) 67 RS Camaro-327/250hp, 2speed Glide, & 3.08 Open (Danny's Ride) |
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Marlin, I do understand your point of view.....and do not think that even G.M.painted every frame, fenderwell, control arm, etc the same shade/sheen every shift,day,week or model year.......I am suggesting when these misc cars are judged and scrutinized as we do here and at places like Carlisle....I dont think a restorer should be able to rationalize his way off coatings and color shades, by using the anything/anyday can happen justification.
I agree there is no perfection on this subject. I am only trying to help non professional restorers replicate the factory look & acheive comparible results, the likes of the professional shops. On the other hand if a person doesnt care about accuraccy, judging and what others may think........do as you want, do as you will.....its your car!!!!!!!
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Chuck Sharin [email protected] Auburn,WA (30 miles South of Seattle) 70 Camaro R/S Z-28, L-78, R/S SS 69 Camaro COPO "recreation" |
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I think most judges recognize the point that I was making, and judge appropriately. The best advice is to simply duplicate what you find on the particular car that is being restored. Pull a boot off the firewall for eg. and there's your guide!
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Marlin 70 Yenko Nova-350/360, 4speed M21, 4.10 Posi (Daddy's Ride) 69 SS Nova-396/375hp, 4speed M20, 3.55 Posi (Benjamin's Ride) 67 RS Camaro-327/250hp, 2speed Glide, & 3.08 Open (Danny's Ride) |
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