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Old 04-04-2025, 01:37 PM
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Maybe Kieth would confirm more but I dont think any V engine actually got in a car for the public.I saw a 69 bird with MFG plates that had a complete SCCA short deck V in it.Have never seen a PHS that shows one.They made 50 complete 303 short deck SCCA engine with exhaust manifolds and all.The 400 version when sold from a dealer did not have exhaust manifolds on them.The 50 303s had smog pumps also,no 400s did.I really believe the 303 had a shot to be a car the public could have gotten if the program would have gone forward.FWIW,Tom
A PHS wouldn't show one. These were Knafel converted cars. Much like the 67/68 Yenkos.
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Old 04-04-2025, 01:45 PM
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A PHS wouldn't show one. These were Knafel converted cars. Much like the 67/68 Yenkos.
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quote from a FB site "The 1969 Knafel Pontiac "Golden Sabre" Ram Air V GTO. Knafel Pontiac was out of Akron, OH. Bill Knafel claimed that he purchased Ram Air V engines directly from Pontiac and installed them into 12 1969 GTO's. All were ordered with a white exterior, then repainted in-house with a special Pearlescent White paint obtained from a vendor in Florida. All 12 cars also received polished Hurst Wheels, special gold accents, and the "Golden Sabre - Super Tuned" lettering on the front fender was hand painted in gold leaf. According to Bill Knafel, all 12 cars had 3.90 - 4.33 gears, some were automatics, and they cost a few hundred dollars more than a RAIV GTO. There was no warranty with these cars."
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Are any of the 12 Golden Sabre cars known to exist?
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Are any of the 12 Golden Sabre cars known to exist?
Not to our knowledge. High attrition in the salt-heavy Akron area. None of the Magnum 400's are accounted for either. I did have someone reach out who's attempting to buy one (Magnum 400). Hopefully we can do a podcast on it.

I wrote about both cars in my new book. If interested, I sell copies. Send a PM.

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Here would be another fun car to look for. In 1972 Super Stock and Drag Illustrated gave away their 1970 Hemi Cuda they raced in SS/D. And they list the VIN in the contest entry form:
BS23R0B111679
Would be neat if the car still existed in any form after being run as hard as it was. Originally ran SS/DA then converted to 4 speed.
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In 1965, Bill Stroppe built 7 (maybe 8) A/FX Comets for Mercury. Four (4) of them were built with the legendary Ford 427 SOHC "cammer" motor, for these drivers:
Don Nicholson
Hayden Proffitt
Arnie Beswick
George DeLorean


The whereabouts of the first 3 are known. But what happened to the George DeLorean car?
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None of the first 1967 Camaro 427 conversion cars have been found.

Yenko Motion Nickey Dana Bill Thomas Dick Harrell or other Chevy dealers

Some of the first 1967 Camaro 427 conversions were race cars and some were used as demonstrators
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None of the first 1967 Camaro 427 conversion cars have been found.
With not identifying features and no VINs known, they would just look like any other backyard 427 conversion. Especially after a year or two.....
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