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Maybe Kieth would confirm more but I dont think any V engine actually got in a car for the public.I saw a 69 bird with MFG plates that had a complete SCCA short deck V in it.Have never seen a PHS that shows one.They made 50 complete 303 short deck SCCA engine with exhaust manifolds and all.The 400 version when sold from a dealer did not have exhaust manifolds on them.The 50 303s had smog pumps also,no 400s did.I really believe the 303 had a shot to be a car the public could have gotten if the program would have gone forward.FWIW,Tom
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Maybe Kieth would confirm more but I dont think any V engine actually got in a car for the public.I saw a 69 bird with MFG plates that had a complete SCCA short deck V in it.Have never seen a PHS that shows one.They made 50 complete 303 short deck SCCA engine with exhaust manifolds and all.The 400 version when sold from a dealer did not have exhaust manifolds on them.The 50 303s had smog pumps also,no 400s did.I really believe the 303 had a shot to be a car the public could have gotten if the program would have gone forward.FWIW,Tom
A PHS wouldn't show one. These were Knafel converted cars. Much like the 67/68 Yenkos.
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A PHS wouldn't show one. These were Knafel converted cars. Much like the 67/68 Yenkos.
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quote from a FB site "The 1969 Knafel Pontiac "Golden Sabre" Ram Air V GTO. Knafel Pontiac was out of Akron, OH. Bill Knafel claimed that he purchased Ram Air V engines directly from Pontiac and installed them into 12 1969 GTO's. All were ordered with a white exterior, then repainted in-house with a special Pearlescent White paint obtained from a vendor in Florida. All 12 cars also received polished Hurst Wheels, special gold accents, and the "Golden Sabre - Super Tuned" lettering on the front fender was hand painted in gold leaf. According to Bill Knafel, all 12 cars had 3.90 - 4.33 gears, some were automatics, and they cost a few hundred dollars more than a RAIV GTO. There was no warranty with these cars."
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Are any of the 12 Golden Sabre cars known to exist?
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Are any of the 12 Golden Sabre cars known to exist?
Not to our knowledge. High attrition in the salt-heavy Akron area. None of the Magnum 400's are accounted for either. I did have someone reach out who's attempting to buy one (Magnum 400). Hopefully we can do a podcast on it.

I wrote about both cars in my new book. If interested, I sell copies. Send a PM.

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