Lesnar vs Couture

[Late BrakeU2]

I remember the first one,when they had to hold it in a high school gym or something like that because the state(Ala?)revoked their lic to hold it at an arena. Royce Gracie fought Art Jimerson(a WBA cruiserweight) who wore a boxing glove on one hand..it was over very quickly and opened a lot of people's eyes to the "valetudo" system. My dad started me in forms when i was seven,and I had been training in Muy Thai and Okinawan disciplines till I saw that fight. I realized immediately that any one style was incomplete,and BJJ (soon to be MMA) was reality. I've had the privilege to grapple with guys like Rickson Gracie and former UFC champ Oleg Taktarov, and am here to tell you it's a humbling experience!

[ChevyThunder]

You know.. I just can't see Randy losing .... I try to look at the deal on paper or say brock is too strong .. but Randy is the man ... he is a great guy too . So I am saying , " Randy , teach Brock a lesson"

So what's Brock taking... HGH, straight up steroids... what ? The guy is busting through his skin.Lets see if this goes more than a round and if brock gets that steroid pump in his muscles and gasses

[69hurstSC]

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You know.. I just can't see Randy losing .... I try to look at the deal on paper or say brock is too strong .. but Randy is the man ... he is a great guy too . So I am saying , " Randy , teach Brock a lesson"

So what's Brock taking... HGH, straight up steroids... what ? The guy is busting through his skin.Lets see if this goes more than a round and if brock gets that steroid pump in his muscles and gasses

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wow, tell us what you really think of Brock!?! you should probally watch this video to understand how he gets that frame. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u35uDvFOINs

i'm guessing Mark could probally deliver some insight, but i'll bet Brock gets tested quite often.

[Born30YrsLate]

I don't think it would be steriods causing "man hood shrinkage" it would be the 35-degree icebath!...

[ChevyThunder]

I understand what working out is . I played a little ball in my life and have some good size to my frame. I phrased my question incorrectly. You can test for steroids but then that test doesn't show growth hormone or other forms of performance enhancing drugs.The tests are specific. So I was curious what others thought . It seems as though you guys feel he just eats well and puts himself through a strict workout regime.. that's cool.

Brocks video reminded me of a machine at the training center I had to use that was basically a freezer that would freeze a block of ice solid and then they would cut out a hole in the center for whatever body part . I used it for my arm and my elbow and I can tell you it felt like ice sickles were running through your veins. It was intense.My least favorite part of the day.

[Late BrakeU2]

Lesnar is an amazing wrestler. A crazy athlete. I think he will be a great fighter one day too but he is way to one dimensional for Couture. IMO they are both on HGH,as much as Randy projects the Capt America image you don't bang with guys half you're age at that level without it.

If you like the dog angle here are some stats that don't lie-
Randy Coutures Record as an underdog in the UFC:

UFC 15: Vitor Belfort (No odds available. Easily +400 if so.) WIN
UFC 43: Chuck Liddell +260-+300 WIN
UFC 44: Tito Ortiz +140 WIN
UFC 49: Vito Belfort +115 WIN
UFC 57: Chuck Liddell +180 LOSS
UFC 68: Tim Sylvia +260 WIN
UFC 74: Gabriel Gonzaga +115 WIN

That's a long stretch of kicking A,against a guy with Three MMA fights to his credit. WWA isn't MMA.

Should be quite interesting!

[Chevy454]

I'm not gonna go out on a limb and say neither is on HGH, clear, one of the 'bols, or whatever...because they certainly wouldn't be the first, nor the last...but, in perspective, we're talking about *elite* athletes here. I've seen what simple supplements have done to guys I work out with...heck, I'm a perfect example, as there's no possible way my scrawny frame could flat bench 350+ *without* simple supplements...but start with a guy with already excellent genetics, and then throw in a no budget diet/supplement package, and good things are gonna happen. If you've ever been around a college athletic department much, then you've seen 'kids' transform before your eyes...

[Dave Rifkin]

Just curious; what do you consider "simple" supplements? Creatine, Protein?..............