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Old 01-09-2004, 07:12 AM
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Default ebay now 69 L34 ????

This guy had a prior listing mentioning this car.I contacted him and was all hot to sell it to me.
then I was asking to many questions for cowl tag pics ,
numbers etc.and his phone # kept replying but still no #
s and no phone#. first it was an rs ss and then I quized
on the different tail lights. now he replied that the rs front was grill was added and its an ss. Now he quit
responding and listed it on the bay. I also asked his address so a friend that lives in the area I know to see it.
Won't respond!! I see he put the cowl tag info in the add
which I dont think matches the vin he is showing at the top of listing and on engine photo.
tag info,

ST 69 12437 NOR 105056 tr 711 76 B 09B
vin 124379N506517
Do I have this right ??? I am new at chev numbers and tags
can someone decode the cowl tag info please

Please help me out ?


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Old 01-09-2004, 07:25 AM
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Default Re: ebay now 69 L34 ????

1 = Chevrolet
2 = Camaro
4 = 8-cylinder engine
37 = coupe body
9 = 1969 model year
N = Norwood, OH assembly plant
506517 = vehicle serial number sequence

Decode for body number: 105056

09B = Built the Second week of September.
69-12437 = Coupe.
NOR = Built in Norwood Ohio.
711 = Standard Black Bucket Seats.
76-B = Lower Color is Daytona Yellow and the Vinyl Top Color is Black.



Sep 68 build date looks good to me early car. Engine codes T0904JF Sept 4th JF shows it as a 396/350 HP with either a 3 or 4 speed (High Perf) The stampings look pretty clear and since I dont have many to compare them to, maybe LV/Charley/DjD or one of the others here can help out there
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Old 01-09-2004, 07:38 AM
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Default Re: ebay now 69 L34 ????

Thanks Jeff, so the 105056 is not part of the end of the vin? its a body type??
The vin is not on the cowl tag at all???

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Old 01-09-2004, 07:48 AM
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Whats up with that heater hose? Is he also a plumber by trade?
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Old 01-09-2004, 07:51 AM
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Default Re: ebay now 69 L34 ????

Correct the body number on the trim tag IS NOT part of the VIN. GM assigns the VIN and Fisher Body assigns the body number on the trim tag. The partial VINs on the engine/tranny and the 2 on the firewall and under the cowl vent panel should be 19N506517 which should match the last half of the VIN plate that is on the dash

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The front RS package was added during the resto.

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NOT i repeat NOT a RS. as he states it was added. At least he could have done was add the RS back up lights also below the rear bumper and change over the tail light lens to make it a better RS CLONE. Hey thats a new one here someone trying to pass off a car as a RS and its a bad clone at that
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Default Re: ebay now 69 L34 ????

If the vin# on the engine stamp pad, or in some cases down by the oil filter (rough casting) matches the car vin# located under the windshield, it "could" be an SS 396 (L34).
Other areas would have to be considered like rear multileafs, correct engine mounts (taller one on driver's side), big-block transmission crossmember, 3/8" fuel line, matching vin# on tranny, etc, in order for it to have a chance of being an SS.
An RS it is not. There are no back-up lights and the car has the standard tailights. The car does have the correct grill, but the areas around the hide-a-way headlights are not painted to match the color of the car, in this case Daytona Yellow - 76.
Looks like an aftermarket hide-a-way headlight/grill combination. Seems funny to paint an entire car, without painting around the grill and headlight doors.
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Whats up with that heater hose? Is he also a plumber by trade?

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Funny you said that, and as a plumber myself, One time, in a pinch I used a couple nipples in the heater hoses. At least I used Chrome ones...LOL..
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The front RS package was added during the resto.

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NOT i repeat NOT a RS. as he states it was added. At least he could have done was add the RS back up lights also below the rear bumper and change over the tail light lens to make it a better RS CLONE. Hey thats a new one here someone trying to pass off a car as a RS and its a bad clone at that

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Not sure how internet law works and im not a lawyer but im pretty sure that if you knowingly advertise a car as something it is not then you have committed fraud. That would constitute a felony of consumer fraud along with at least triple damages and new Girlfriend named Bubba..As most of this is done on the internet it may be considered a Federal offense. Dana-Man committed fraud when he stole a photo of a POP from another car and tried to pass it on as his own. If I had bought that car because of the POP I would have had this Jerk locked up..Anyone know the law for this? Always save your E-Mails during corrispondance
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I like the "barstool vinyl" roof too.
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