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Old 09-02-2008, 06:32 PM
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Iam sorry Bill I did not read all the info, Can you see to forgive me. I still think that the 1968 camaro Z/28 convertible should win. Frank261

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To each his own, but to vote for a replica/clone over an original owner survivor (real L78)?? My vote is for the survivor hands down. Although I'm kinda biased towards the unrestored survivors Just doesn't get any better!
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Steve you need to look at the whole picture. What looks better a fresh restored or a Unrestore? I know the 1968 Z/28 Camaro Convertible has got alot more public attention. One {Goodguys Muscle Car of the Year Award}, Two {Hemming Muscle Machine Award} L@@K
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Old 09-02-2008, 10:26 PM
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Default Re: Hemmings Muscle Machines Musclecar of the Year

Its interesting that over 10% of your posts have been pumping up and promoting this car.
As for this statement:
"What looks better a fresh restored or a Unrestore? I know the 1968 Z/28 Camaro Convertible has got alot more public attention."

My preference has always been unrestored survivors, however a close second is a correctly restored real car.
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Yes: But now not everyone has a unrestored car, not only that theres not enough restored to go around. Check this one out. Huffy Rail Rider
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Old 09-02-2008, 11:06 PM
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To each his own, but to vote for a replica/clone over an original owner survivor (real L78)?? My vote is for the survivor hands down. Although I'm kinda biased towards the unrestored survivors Just doesn't get any better!

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I agree on {{ Un. & Restored }} original cars, those are the ones to vote on, and support...If anything , a class for << clone or such >>we vote on differently..


It's a Dam shame when you got to a show and a clone win's over original car's, No way is that right, I can also go a step further to say the same for driven car's to trailer Queen's. but ** Real vs Made up ++, No, for voting them top Muscle car.....Kasey
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"What looks better a fresh restored or a Unrestore?"


Well.........if we were comparing an original muscle car to a custom resto-mod ( I believe that is the correct term for the 68Z28, not a fresh restore) I would have to say the orginal factory muscle car with all it's original muscle equipment is more of a candidate for Muscle car of the year.


I am also sure the Z28 is entitled to awards in it's own class.

However, Hemmings seems to leave the door open for anything...."So how do we determine which cars get to show up on the ballot? Several criteria are considered, the most obvious being the condition of the car. But then, we tend not to feature cars that aren't quite nice, so that doesn't always help all that much. The rarity of a certain car can factor in if other elements are in order, and sometimes just the story behind a featured muscle machine might sway us. Feedback from the readership in the form of e-mails and letters after the story on a particular car comes out can also have an influence.

The 12 cars from the 2008 issues we've published so far this year exemplify the range of reasons that land a feature car on the MMOY ticket, with some concours-restored cars, an original unrestored example, some factory skunk works specials, a couple drag racers, and even a never-was creation.
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Ya know its to bad everybody has to be on diffrent ends of the Rope. We all would like to have a survivor. We are all trying to show are love for older Camaros and other cars. Can't we just get along and appreciate and respect each other TOYS. Huffy Rail Ridder
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Ya know its to bad everybody has to be on diffrent ends of the Rope. We all would like to have a survivor. We are all trying to show are love for older Camaros and other cars. Can't we just get along and appreciate and respect each other TOYS. Huffy Rail Ridder

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very well put frank261 when you said"Can't we just get along and appreciate and respect each other TOYS"

us having different opinions is the whole beauty of this site!!!

i respect everybody's opinion here!

i dont frequent this site as much as others.but i do check in every once in a while...and when i do,it seems my car keeps coming up on here.....not necesarily in a negative way,but not usually positive either.

i would like to thank my P R person frank 261...lol....

everytime my car receives an award,whether its locally or nationally,it has been a bumpy ride! many many opinions,comments and views.....it has been a learning experience for me.i have met many great people.some very high profile.....

my car was nominated for the goodguys musclecar of the year award and hemmings muscle machine award not by me,but by our fellow car brothers and sisters.we all know cars.....we should all learn from eachother....

we all have our own opinions or idea's of what the best muscle car or muscle machine may be...

and we all shall respect eachothers opinions.....

the muscle machine nomination and the muscle car nomination will be very very interesting to see the outcome......this may give all of us an idea of what the general car enthusiasts considers to be the ultimate muscle machine.

lets respect their opinion as well....

John.............



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I voted for Jim Houses original 69 Camaro SS L78 with 22,000 original miles. I was fortunate to see the car in person and it is a time capsule. He is the original owner of this beauty and it had to be real hard to hold onto this car for all these years. How many did and how many wish they held onto one of there original muscle cars? He also drives the car to all the local shows! Don’t get me wrong I like the concourse show cars but they are really 2 different classes in my opinion. But when it comes down to the muscle car of the year it is up to the public. Just my 2 cent’s!
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Default Re: Hemmings Muscle Machines Musclecar of the Year

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Ya know its to bad everybody has to be on diffrent ends of the Rope. We all would like to have a survivor. We are all trying to show are love for older Camaros and other cars. Huffy Rail Ridder

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Frank, in all seriousness, and I dont mean this as an insult, but is English a second language for you? If it is, I can understand all the typos. But your writing style leaves me with the same eyeball headaches that are only surpassed by that guy who used to post here in all-caps.

What is a Huffy Rail Ridder anyway? Do you mean a Huffy Rail rider, i.e. you ride an old 1960's Huffy Rail Chopper style bicycle? Or do you rid the world of Huffy Rail Chopper bicycles?

If you're a rider, I am with you man:

This is my original owner 1970 Raleigh chopper I got for my 8th birthday:

This is now:



This is in November, 1970


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