Could this be a COPO ????

[supercomp 8.90]

i dont have anything close to that area in my notes, kurt may be right.

[*hotrods*]

Why do you think that it isn't? I not doubting you but according to some research there were some cars built around this time.

[William]

For most 69s there is a rough correlation between the body number and the VIN. Cars were built in VIN sequence and body numbers sort of follow along.

This was not always true of COPOs, possibly due to batch assembly of BE axles. COPO body numbers nearly always lag 'normal' production by quite a bit. In addition L72 COPOs were typically ordered in quantity; 10, 20 at a time and their body numbers are frequently but not always in sequence. The first batch of Yenkos COPOs are in the VIN range N578xxx-N579xxx; body numbers seem to all be 202450-202550. Most other 69s in that VIN range have body numbers 219000-222000.

Your car is out of the COPO norm in that that there were very few non-Yenko COPOs produced at that time and the body number is in line with normal production.

Although I understand the logic behind the COPO body number theory there is enough data to prove it does not always apply. And, once again, the theory is based on less than half of the COPOs produced. The 50 Gibb ZL-1s were ordered at the same time in groups of 10 by color: 6 4-speeds and 4 automatics in Dusk Blue, Fathom Green, Cortez Silver, Le Mans Blue, Hugger Orange. One would think that is how they were built; not quite. The first two N568358 and N568359 Dusk Blue autos were moved up the production schedule [12E] and delivered 12/31/68 with body numbers 222002 and 222003. 222001 was the 14th car built [02D] but the first one ordered [NCJ016], a Le Mans blue 4-speed. The last Gibb ZL-1 ordered [NCJ065] has body number 240022 - go figure. Applying the COPO body number theory would rule this car out as a Gibb ZL-1 but it is real and well documented.

It gets better - the #3 ZL-1 from Berger Chev was the first ZL-1 ordered: 21175 [N608193], well before the Gibb cars. Also of all the known Berger COPOs none have a body number near #3 even though some are in the same N608xxx VIN range - another car the theory would rule out. Many of the non-Gibb ZL-1s also have random body numbers not close to other known COPOs.

So much for the theory.

[firstgenaddict]

There are at least 10 Emmert COPO's with 610XXX vins and 15 or so Berger's with Vins below 614XXX. Plus the Yenko's and 9560's.
There is a Yenko VIN#614732 along with about 100 more Yenkos with Vin's in the 613XXX-616XXX VIN range... yes they were batch built and yes this car was built during one of the batches but none of this means anything without paperwork... COPO's are not too hard to clone so without orignal drive train or paper it will be difficult to prove without a shawdow of doubt.

[*hotrods*]

Thanks for all the help guys. I'm just about done with the restoration of the car and thought that it may be a long shot. Anyway I didn't want to sell a car for half the price of a real COPO. Thanks again.

Kevin

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

William, that is good info on the body # vs. vin # relationships. You Camaro guys have it a lot harder than us Nova guys because you have these small batches of copo cars thrown into the mix. Kudo's to you for spending years figuring them out!