Ebay has lost thier minds

**John Brown** · #1 05-20-2008, 06:32 AM

My thoughts exactly Chuck.

If it's deserved, leave a positive feedback, but with a <u>scalding</u>

comment.

**Born30YrsLate** · #2 05-20-2008, 06:35 AM

...they do other stupid crap now too...

**Fast67VelleN2O** · #3 05-20-2008, 06:47 AM

Actually it was just put into effect today. I left feedback yesterday and it gave me the option of neutral or negative. Today it did not. Very stupid on ebay's part.

**427.060** · #4 05-20-2008, 06:53 AM

Actually it just went into effect. It was announced months ago. The reason for it is so sellers can't give retalitory feedback if the buyer gives them bad feedback. There were also a few other changes. You now get credit for multipule feedbacks from the same buyer. My feedback rating jumped over 125 points today. Their reasoning is good but the way they tried to fix the problem sucks. Now if a buyer doesn't pay, you can't leave bad feedback. So now buyers will always have a 100% rating. I think the way they hid the bidders name is stupid too. You can't tell if there is shill bidding.
James

Johnny Horsepower · #5 05-20-2008, 07:12 AM

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Actually it just went into effect. It was announced months ago. The reason for it is so sellers can't give retalitory feedback if the buyer gives them bad feedback. There were also a few other changes. You now get credit for multipule feedbacks from the same buyer. My feedback rating jumped over 125 points today. Their reasoning is good but the way they tried to fix the problem sucks. Now if a buyer doesn't pay, you can't leave bad feedback. So now buyers will always have a 100% rating. I think the way they hid the bidders name is stupid too. You can't tell if there is shill bidding.
James

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I agree with the policy but not the way they did it. Sellers wait for a negative feedback and then blast you even though you did nothing wrong. The way the policy should be, is that once the buyer has paid a proven payment through paypal etc., then you cannot leave negative feed back.
This allows a screwed buyer to post freely, and allows the victim of a dead beat the option to call out the jerk.

My $.02

JOHN

**Mr. Chevy** · #6 05-20-2008, 07:02 PM

I am not playing Devil's Advocate here guys but, this policy would have helped me and cost me a lot of aggravation several months ago.

I bought a 1970 Chevrolet dealer salesman's accessory booklet on e-bay from a seller who I think really "jacked me around." I sent payment for the item the next day after the auction ended via pay pal and never heard anything back from the seller. I had to e-mail the seller twice and by this time it was just over 1 month since I had secured payment for the item. The seller finally responded and alleged that his computer was "down" and it still took another 2 weeks to get the book to me in the mail.

So being nice I left nuetral feedback instead of negative as to the seller. Then this jerk off seller turns around and leaves me negative feedback as a buyer which was total crap!! I did nothing wrong at all in the transaction. So I was pi$$ed and I typed up this long nasty letter to the seller and also sent it to e-bay. They finally reconcilled everything and removed the negative mark for me.. It was a real pain though...

I do agree with you guys and saw their new protocol. I don't think it is right that a seller cannot leave a negative strike if you are dealing with a real jerk/difficult buyer because we all know they are out there!!

Rich

wwchevy · #7 05-20-2008, 07:38 PM

I'm not positive you can never leave negative feedback. When I saw it yesterday for the first time it read to me like you now have to file a complaint and follow a process from there. Is it possible that further down the line you are able to leave the appropriate negative feedback? If that is not an option then leave the deadbeat loser comments in the positive feedback category (ALL CAPS OF COURSE).

**Hotrodpaul** · #8 05-20-2008, 07:48 PM

That is also very aggrivating to me that many sellers will wait until you leave feedback about them BEFORE they leave feedback about you, even though you paid in full within the stated payment terms. Really, the whole feedback system is somewhat flawed, I think a comment section for stating how the transaction went for each party would be better. Or, as someone pointed out earlier, if the seller pays by PayPal within the allotted time, they have done their part and should receive a positive feedback rating for that transaction. Then, the pressure is on the seller to fulfill their part to ship the item to the buyer in a timely fashion and provide satisfaction after the sale.
My .02.

Paul

Les Quam · #9 05-20-2008, 08:13 PM

I agree with Mr. Chevy and others. Both my negative feedbacks came after I immediately paid and the item arrived damaged in a undamaged container or was not the item I bought and the sellers never resolved it. Then after doing nothing wrong I got negative feedback. The system is flawed but the old system where the seller extorts a positive or no feedback after the buyer pays is terrible.

nuch_ss396 · #10 05-20-2008, 08:26 PM

I contacted ebay regarding this whole new feedback program
as I've had a similar issue where a seller left me negative
feedback after I left him neutral feedback. I bought a set
of NOS 12-bolt gears for my '69 Camaro and paid immediately
via Paypal. When the gear set arrived, the gears were
simply sandwiched between newspaper and lying loose in the
box. Talk about pi$$ed-off!

I'm wondering what the impetus is for this change on ebay's
part. It doesn't make much sense. Like I mentioned before,
it's smells of PC........

Nuch

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