The most "significant" Chevrolet performance car.

[92646]

Colin, what other Z/28 convertible are you referring to?
Mark Sheppard

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Colin, what other Z/28 convertible are you referring to?
Mark Sheppard

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I had this in a Z28 file, not sure of the story. It can't be real? I do recall the gashole issue though.

[Verne_Frantz]

My 2cents:
I think Kwizz was close.
In the entire history of Chevrolet, there was never a more "designed from scratch", full package, under one RPO number, race purpose vehicle than the '63 Impala Z-11. IF you look at everything that car had under ONE RPO #, strickly built for racing only, (with only 50 produced just to have NHRA sanction) there was never another Chevrolet produced with so many specific packaged features for one purpose.

Verne

[flyingn]

I'd lean towards the 65 Z15 Chevelle. Chevrolet's first big motored mid sized car....

[hvychev]

Verne, when I was thinking about this thread before I posted it, what I really had in mind is one PARTICULAR car out there like ex: Red Alert, or Dickie Harrel #1 ZL1, the blue RS ZL1, so and so's original owner Yenko Camaro, etc.

[69hurstSC]

significant...? probally the first ever 427 conversion car.

[copo69]

I agree with Verne on the '63 Z11. By significance, this car had to be a major influence on the popularity of later Chevrolet muscle. Car was more competitive and much more specialized than the ZL1 plus they were easier to sell. Many ZL1's lost their motors to boats and other race cars or were motors were pulled just to sell the cars. While they had a weight advantage even Jenkins said the iron motors made more power. I'm a Camaro person but feel that big Impala was more significant. I think the runnerup would be the early Z28's in TransAm.

[67rscoupe]

Great!now don't tell me this car will be at the next mecum auction selling for $800k.


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Colin, what other Z/28 convertible are you referring to?
Mark Sheppard

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I had this in a Z28 file, not sure of the story. It can't be real? I do recall the gashole issue though.

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[Les Quam]

You guys are talking about generic non specific rare cars with the exception of the Z-28 CV mentioned by Colin.

The reason the unrestored blue ZL-1 is arguably the holy grail of muscle cars is because it is a rare car like many that have been discussed in this excellent thread BUT its condition and options for what should have been a race car like most ZL-1s were is what it sets it apart from the rest.

An original unrestored unmolested highly optioned RS ZL-1 with a documented history makes it number one Chevy IMHO. If the Z-28 CV mentioned by Colin is unrestored then it has to be up there except that the ZL-1 is a much stronger running car than the Z-28. Big block Chevy is really the pinnacle of 60s performance I think?

Now a really interesting discussion is this? I think Charley's not so super snake is the number one most significant Ford muscle car ever built since we are excluding Vettes and Cobra's as sportscars and not muscle cars. Here is the query, between the blue unrestored Zl-1 and Charley's not so super snake which is more historically significant? We need a Mopar muscle car candidate a specific car perhaps a Pontiac and an Olds and lets get ready to rumble and choose the holy grail of muscle cars?

[hvychev]

Les, by asking that question you are going to get a zillion different responses all over the board. Guys, please humor me and stick to Chevys and make it one particular specific car.

Just for fun I am going to disagree with Les, Charley, and others. I do not agree that the blue ZL1 is more significant than for instance, the #1 ZL1 that I picked. I understand everything that you stated as to its originality and rarity, but how could you possibly say it is more "significant" in the true definition of the word, than the #1 ZL1? The #1 ZL1 has some serious racing history, is the ultimate supercar (ZL1), and was driven by one of the fathers, if not THE father of all supercars. Add to this that the car is still out there today, in its full race trim glory, and even makes a lap down the track from time to time. I just am not seeing this. I will also add that if the #1 ZL1 was bought new and put into a time capsule and opened up today as a brand new 1969 Camaro ZL1 in 2008 it would STILL NOT be as significant as it were having been raced.