THE LAST??? 1967 Z-28

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Nope; bodies were not made 'in order'.

Imagine if you will hundreds of body tags [not assembled bodies] and other paperwork in queue at Fisher body. Maybe it was all in a vinyl pouch. Someone in production control at Fisher looks at the Chevrolet assembly schedule for the day/week and releases the appropriate body tag/paperwork to production. Chevy then gets the assembled body when they expect it.

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William,

Still waiting for your reply's.....

Thanks

Phil

[William]

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Nope; bodies were not made 'in order'.

Imagine if you will hundreds of body tags [not assembled bodies] and other paperwork in queue at Fisher body. Maybe it was all in a vinyl pouch. Someone in production control at Fisher looks at the Chevrolet assembly schedule for the day/week and releases the appropriate body tag/paperwork to production. Chevy then gets the assembled body when they expect it.

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William,

Still waiting for your reply's.....

Thanks

Phil

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Research, same way Paleontologists know about dinosaurs. I have been involved with 1st gens for 33 years.

I am also APICS certified, led certification classes for several years and have been the education chair on the chapter BOD for 5 years. I have worked in manufacturing for 37 years. What all that means is I have some knowledge of production control systems.

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William,

OK - I will ask you once again:

"Please detail your opinion on the '67 Build sequence at Fisher, the lines that staged the bodys built immediatly on the Chevrolet side and why they were arranged in that manner, and finally the VIN assignment and the build sequence lock for final production".

Be specific Please.

[iluv69s]

Hey William..thanks for the info. ...so just a few more questions...would my car have probably been ordered?? Were all the Camaros actually ordered by the dealers in the colors/option combos that they wanted?? Or was there any randomness to the build process, and then the dealers got to pick?? or what?? Thanks, Max


BTW...so the last 67 Camaro could possibly be an 07A car I guess???

...and the last known 67?? in the database?? how far from the end of production?? just curious...Thanks again, max

[William]

Unlike Chrysler who actually built cars on spec in those days GM cars were built to a specific order. Dealer orders were for stock, per customer spec or fleet for lease/daily rental. I believe Zone Offices could also order cars as they are sometimes listed as available in Zone newsletters.

So yes, someone specifically ordered your car.

The sequence in which scheduled orders were built was apparently negotiable. High-volume dealers could and did receive preferential treatment. De Loreans' 1973 book alludes to Zone offices threatening to delay cars ordered without radios. He also mentions chronic material shortages due in large part to the long option lists common in those days-too many build combinations.

The CRG db is proprietary so I cannot reveal specific VIN info. There is a '67 very close to the last and it is 07B.

[William]

http://www.camaros.org/assemblyprocess.shtml

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William,

So by posting the link it appears you do not have an opinion yourself?



OK then Help me to understand - lets try to agree on some basics applicable ONLY to 1967 Camaro production: (Please Agree or disagree)

1. In 1967 The TT (Trim Tag) contained the major options on each body built at Fisher Agree?

2. 1968 and 1969 TT's were configured in a different manner from 1967. Agree?

3. The 1967 TT contains the option and basic RPO idenity of each car. Agree?

4. The 1967 TT was affixed by Fisher during the build up of the body. Agree?

5. In the absence of a body with a TT at the Factory there is no car to go to Chevrolet final Assembly (CFA). Agree?

6. The CFA side of the Fisher "hole" was called "Final Vehicle Assembly" Agree?

7. The basic Option content on the body was created prior to the assignment of the VIN# on the Chevrolet side. Agree?

8.The VIN# and the computer lock for CFA (with the specific option content) was partially assigned based upon down line parts availability. Agree?

9. The order where the bodys were staged at the Chevrolet side of the Fisher hole consisted of multiple staging lines. Agree?

10 The order that the bodies were staged on the Chevrolet side was random prior to the assignment of the VIN and final assembly computer build lock. Agree?

11. The VIN# assignment was required to lock the Body into final vehicle assembly sequence to meet the required parts pick. Agree?

12. The Trim Tag identifies the Month and week of body build up. Agree?

13. The build up of a body is part of the assembly process of building a complete car. Agree?

14. Fisher Body and the construction of a body was an overall Part of the GM/Chevrolet Assembly Process.
Agree?

Not trying to be adversarial, just trying to understand why you have the opinions that you seem to have on this specific vehicle in this thread.

Thanks for your time. We will start here.

[iluv69s]

That's interesting...I'd sure as hell would like to know who ordered my car new..and what kind of life it lead...Some of the odd things I found on the car gave some clues...but I wish i had a time machine.....

BTW, As far as the motor dates...I finally dug out and uncovered the motor...the intake and distributor are both 69's....otherwise all the dates and #'s are correct as far as I can tell and according to the Smokey paperwork listing the parts,etc....

Here's a few pics...

[iluv69s]

cast # and date

[Kurt S]

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(Please Agree or disagree)

8.The VIN# and the computer lock for CFA (with the specific option content) was partially assigned based upon down line parts availability.

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Disagree.
The VIN was assigned right as the body was received by Fisher.
If the parts were not available, the body wouldn't have been built.

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10 The order that the bodies were staged on the Chevrolet side was random prior to the assignment of the VIN and final assembly computer build lock.

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No, the VIN was assigned first and then the cars bodies went into the body bank. The six lanes of the body bank were organized by option (mainly AC, RS, hi-po, and regular). The body bank balanced the assembly line according to option content of the car. Certain stations take more time than others. You didn't want 2 rally sports, etc, in a row. Still true today.

Other than that, looks mostly correct.