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Old 01-29-2008, 02:37 AM
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The Olds and Buick cars were the most expensive of all Muscle Cars back in the day. I remember them both often being labeled ‘Rich Man’s Hot Rods” by many auto writers. But unfortunately for Buick they have always also had to contend with the stigma of being the “Old Man’s” car. This is one of the reasons I believe the Buick’s have never felt the love and received the big $$$$$ from collectors that the LS-6, RAIV or W-Cars have enjoyed. But after seeing the concours Apollo White 1970 GSX Stg-1 4spd car sell at the last B-J auction for 150K makes one wonder if the tide is changing. Very nice cars Flying Buick and good luck w/sale! RM
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Old 01-29-2008, 06:33 AM
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Jimmy's $150K GSx at that sold at BJ this month was NOT a frame off resto. There has never been a real frame off concours stage 1, 4 speed GSX through the BJ auction. Not many Buick (or Olds) owners want to risk the loss of their car at a no reserve auction. I have been to BJ. With the exception of the recent Ramchargers car owner, they do not show you on the tube the numerous disappointed sellers. The emphasize how great it is that they no longer allow reserve cars to enter but neglect to mention this can be catastrophic for unwary sellers who think all cars will ton it.

Also quite a few nice 1970 GSX and Stage 1 convertibles have brought 200-300K at private sales. Some of the convertibles were unrestored. I have some familiarity with the Olds W30 sales too. At private sales many Olds W30s have brought $200-300K. On the other hand at the BJ auction about $100K is tops for an Olds muscle car. So the Olds owners with the best cars, just like the Buick stage 1 owners, will not participate at the BJ auction. It is more of a Ford , Chevrolet and specialty car auction.
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Old 01-29-2008, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: 70 Stage 1 GSX 4 Speed -Concours Resto

I remember the Stage 1 Saturn Yellow GSX that ran thru BJ last year. Automatic car. That car was restored by Dave Kleiner over 20 years ago. He told me it had numerous miles put on the car over the years and was freshened up for the auction. Still it brought 165K I think. Not bad for a car that is no-longer considered "Best of Breed".

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Old 01-30-2008, 02:45 AM
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Agreed both Olds & Buick cars in true no-1 concours condition have sold privately for HUGE figures but did not receive the press of other sales.
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Old 01-30-2008, 05:57 AM
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Agreed both Olds & Buick cars in true no-1 concours condition have sold privately for HUGE figures but did not receive the press of other sales.

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Also we know of some unrestored W30s that have sold for between 200-300K. Not all were concours restos. It just depends on the car. In general, W30 and Stage 1 convertibles have brought the most Franklin brothers at private sale.
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Old 01-30-2008, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: 70 Stage 1 GSX 4 Speed -Concours Resto

This is turning into a good post for the GSX cars!

510lb ft of torque at 2800 rpm. Less then 400 Stage 1 GSX cars built in 1970. In your face paint scheme and spoilers.


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Old 01-31-2008, 12:20 AM
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In the 1970s you had the stage 1 GSX. At the time many mags like Motor Trend and Car Review rated this Buick as the fastest 4 seat production muscle car. Then in the 80s the GN/GNX Buick cars were the undisputed kings of the muscle cars. Then fast forward to 1997 and Popular Mechanics had a muscle car reunion shoot out. Again these same Buicks were rated the quickest four seat production muscle cars. The citations to the those articles and tests are in our GSX poster we posted here. Now I realize there will always be a dispute about what were the quickest cars, but no one can deny the Buicks were always at or near the top. Nevertheless, because they were so rare and expensive, they have never had the following of the other brands.
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Old 01-30-2008, 05:29 AM
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I remember the Stage 1 Saturn Yellow GSX that ran thru BJ last year. Automatic car. That car was restored by Dave Kleiner over 20 years ago. He told me it had numerous miles put on the car over the years and was freshened up for the auction. Still it brought 165K I think. Not bad for a car that is no-longer considered "Best of Breed".

Patrick

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If that is so, it would make either this car, or the fresh Dave Kleiner restoration I have posted a no brainer of a buy.
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Old 01-30-2008, 05:43 AM
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Patrick already has a GSX. Not many will jump for for two.
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Old 01-30-2008, 05:53 AM
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Patrick already has a GSX. Not many will jump for for two.

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Just making a good point to benefit us both...no worries.
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