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There was a red 1979 TA, 400, 4 speed (desirable) w/ 300 miles that sold on ebay a few months ago. I think it went for mid 30's. I had a '79 403 auto in 1979. Kept it for 3 months - total POS. I alway thought the '79 400, 4 speed was considered the last "desirable" TA. It is to me anyway. $63k for a 301 turbo is shocking. I am so priced out of this hobby.
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Un-verified, but I have heard that in Vegas the casinos put "plants" at slot machines in high-traffic areas that win a lot...
I know nothing more than those cars were about the worst GM F-Bodies ever built; they are total crap, no performance, rattletraps with tacky decals. I don't care if it had 7K miles on it, whomever bought it either wanted their 20 seconds of fame, or won the Powerball. Any early Turbo T/A or Formula is a candidate for worst car ever, and viable evidence of approximately when GM de-railed. |
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Un-verified, but I have heard that in Vegas the casinos put "plants" at slot machines in high-traffic areas that win a lot... I know nothing more than those cars were about the worst GM F-Bodies ever built; they are total crap, no performance, rattletraps with tacky decals. I don't care if it had 7K miles on it, whomever bought it either wanted their 20 seconds of fame, or won the Powerball. Any early Turbo T/A or Formula is a candidate for worst car ever, and viable evidence of approximately when GM de-railed. [/ QUOTE ] Don't sugar coat it,how do you really feel? Seriously though at 70k with juice that's about 3X what that car would normally bring.For the same coin you could have a 10th annie W72 4spd with similar mileage AND a Y84! ![]() |
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Some guy I knew had one of those Turbo T/A's. What a turd.
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A good friend of mine has a 81 TA SE 301 non turbo.....neat car but guttless..I remember a quote from a mag back then that said Pontiac managed to turbo charge a V-8 and still couldn't find horsepower...
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Well I have had experience with those 301 turbo's and not only were they turds, but the turbo would not last 50K miles. The only way a turbo T/A is worth 63K is if it has 62K cash in the trunk!
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it doesnt really matter what the fellow paid, it was his money. the car was immaculate and beautiful, coupled with the fact it is in the most desired color combination. if this car ran 14's from the factory we would be wondering why it went so cheap.
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I know nothing more than those cars were about the worst GM F-Bodies ever built; they are total crap, no performance, rattletraps with tacky decals. I don't care if it had 7K miles on it, whomever bought it either wanted their 20 seconds of fame, or won the Powerball. Any early Turbo T/A or Formula is a candidate for worst car ever, and viable evidence of approximately when GM de-railed. [/ QUOTE ] Well, considering the 70-81 Trans Am's were FAR better cars, with more power, better handling, better build quality, and nicer interiors than 70-81 Z/28's, I guess that puts the 70-81 Camaros and Z/28's just beneath the AMC Pacers and Gremlins on the old hiearchy chart. ![]() The 80-81 Turbo T/A's were slow, very slow, but in 1980-1981 they were considered fast. The 210 hp rating on those cars was accurate, but without much torque, it's pretty hard to push a 4000 lb car with 301 cubes, even it it was helped by a turbo. Buick got it right a few years later.... The Turbo T/A only had to compete with the likes of 170 hp Camaros, Corvettes, Citations, and other rolling embarrasments like the infamous Hurst/Olds W-30, or the gelded AMX, or a host of other cars we'd all like to forget. Face it, everything pretty much sucked during those years. But at least the 80-81 Turbo Trans Am's remained performance cars during this dismal era. They remained the best handling cars in America, they came with 4-wheel disc brakes, and are remembered for being one of the more beautiful cars from that time period. Probably half of the people that bought those cars didn't have a clue about all the research and work that went into creating an aerodynamic tour de force, with functional spoilers, extractors, and how the WS6 suspension was a source of jealously amongst the Chevrolet engineers. To most buyers, it just looked cool. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but considering the 80-81 Special Edition black/gold cars are going for $40K+ now, it shows that even though these cars, while slow in the 1/4 mile compared to 1960's standards, are now bringing prices equivalent to restored base 64-72 GTO's, 442's, GS's, and Chevelle SS's. Different strokes....
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It is amazing how some things bid high and others that look like really nice, good, solid buy cars will not do a whole lot.. Like that 70 L78 Nova mentioned above.. For example just can't see how that does 50k and what I though was hideous looking that stretched out, customized gold T-Bird
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<~~~ interested to see what the SC/rambler will bring. they made a descent jump from 2 years ago to last year.
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Founder of Lost Muscle Cars Discovered; 1968 Dick Harrell L88 Super Chevelle, 1969 Ford Boss Bronco, 1969 KK1201 Boss 429 Prototype, 1964 Savoy 426 Max Wedge (steel nose), 1969 Nova L78 Yenko Sold |
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