1969 RS/Z Black 45k miles Original Paint

[Hylton]

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How did an engine with a DZ-stamp find it´s way out to the public without a partial VIN on it ? Wouldn´t a replacement engine be CE-stamped ?

Just wondering.

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There have been quite a few cars documented without VIN numbers stamped into the blocks and/or transmissions. I guess the worker either forgot or could not be bothered.

[69LM1]

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How did an engine with a DZ-stamp find it´s way out to the public without a partial VIN on it ? Wouldn´t a replacement engine be CE-stamped ?

Just wondering.

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There have been quite a few cars documented without VIN numbers stamped into the blocks and/or transmissions. I guess the worker either forgot or could not be bothered.

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OK, so what's the scoop. Prior post said that this was not the original "DZ", but the ad above is confusing, in that it specifically states the tranny as not original "born with" but later camaro VIN. Does not mention the engine either way.

"Engine Recently rebuilt
DZ 302 (V0409DZ) no VIN stamp on pad or oil filter boss
618 Casting
Cast April 7th 1969
Build date April 9th
Bored .020 & honed with torque plates
ARP Main Studs"

"M21-Muncie Close Ratio Trans (has a M20 from a later Vin 69 Camaro in it)"

From this post https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/show.../page/1#204077

"44,900 miles,
Original Engine missing ,
X33 04C car."

[Steve Shauger]

I believe the third post from the original thread discloses the fact that the orig engine is missing. If I remember correctly they also were up front about finding a correctly dated original DZ. In fact pics of the stamping was posted prior to the purchase of the engine to confirm its originality. Think of this car having its brothers engine in it. Can't get much closer than that.

Certainly the for sale ad could have been clearer, but for the record James and William were up front with anyone who talked with them at the camaro nationals.

[10/10_RS/Z28]

The car is BAD and very very rare from what I have been told by many camaro experts, and from what I have seen in the "for sale" market over the past couple of years. Both Jerry MacNeish and the Vintage Camaro fellows have seen the car and really liked what they saw (for what that's worth). I've seen blues, reds, yellows, gold, white, orange, and lots of green in miscellaneous stages of restoration, however I have not seen a legit black Z. I could be way off, but I have not seen a comparible car for sale. I clearly cannot replace this car for what appears to be any price. The car may not eclipse the 100k mark (unless @ BJ LOL) however I have turned down some big money and big trades for the car and there has always been great intrest in a REAL black RS/Z28 with these factory options and original paint, and interior. I will negotiate on the price, however no trades will be entertained at this time.

[427king]

Is it your car??? Or James'?

[10/10_RS/Z28]

Mine, however James did the work on it and is fielding the questions about it because of his knowledge of camaros & parts etc.

[427king]

Thanks and good luck with the sale.

[70LS6454]

This is the best looking Z I've seen. Can't beat the color combo in my opinion.I wouldn't change a thing

[af1fe]

My mama always told me if I didn't have anything good to say, it best to nothing at all. I will say this though anyone considering this car it would do them well to do an in person inspection.

[Rick Cell]

Didn't mama tell you if you do decide to open your mouth tell it all the way it is.