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Old 01-14-2008, 03:13 AM
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Default 1969 RS/Z Black 45k miles Original Paint

1969 Camaro RS/Z
One of 6 unrestored Camaros to be Vintage Certified (Extensive detailed examination for part numbers and correctness by multiple judges for multiple hours) at the GM Nationals Carlisle June 2007. Judges stated it would be a sin to restore the car.


X33 (X3 on rear bulkhead)
04C build
Body Number 308966
VIN 633599
10 10 Original Black Paint 90-95% (paint shows as you would expect lacquer checks etc.) Front of pass fender has been touched up and the top of the pass quarter has been touched up.
711 Black Std Interior
45,000 miles
Original interior with factory white stitched seats
Original Carpet
Original dated Seat belts.
Very nice factory Rosewood wheel (the original Std RS wheel goes with car)
All original Dated Glass
U17-Factory Instrumentation
Console
VE3-Endura bumper
ZL2-Cowl Hood
D80-Spoilers
J50-PowerBrakes
M21-Muncie Close Ratio Trans (has a M20 from a later Vin 69 Camaro in it)
BV coded 4.10 Positraction Rear axle Cast April 15 69 (Axle stamp BV 0417 G2)

Engine Recently rebuilt
DZ 302 (V0409DZ) no VIN stamp on pad or oil filter boss
618 Casting
Cast April 7th 1969
Build date April 9th
Bored .020 & honed with torque plates
ARP Main Studs

1178 crank shaft
Full floating "Pink" rods with ARP rod bolts
.020 over pistons with Total seal gapless moly rings

186 heads dated March 20 1969
New Stainless Valves swirl polished undercut stems
Double springs with dampers
Screw-in studs with guide plates
Aluminum needle bearing roller rockers

480 distributor (December 68 Date)
4053 DZ carb dated 934 (4th week of March 1969)
Original US stamped 309 Master Cylinder
Original Rear Wheel cylinders and Original Front brake calipers go with the car

New Centerforce clutch, pressure plate, and Throwout bearing.

Car was a day 2 hot rod/drag racer and still retains the following
Finned Differential cover
Lakewood Adjustable Traction Bars
Lakewood scattershield
Has Matte Black Jet Hot Coated Hooker Super comp headers(Look very period correct)
Reproduction Chambered Exhaust system.

Cosmetically the Car is basically unrestored- it has been cleaned thoroughly and the paint polished.

From the time the car was purchased to now all work has been thoroughly documented on this site
Link to Original Thread
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Link to Camaros.net
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Price $100,000 or offers
email James Groome [email protected]
or call 864-444-7041
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Old 01-14-2008, 04:24 AM
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Default Re: 1969 RS/Z Black 45k miles Original Paint

OUCH! That is such a SAAAAWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEET! looking machine. Very menacing with that black paint and those righteous torque thrusts. Good luck!








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Default Re: 1969 RS/Z Black 45k miles Original Paint

This is one Z28 that I would really like to own.
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Old 01-14-2008, 03:15 PM
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This is one Z28 that I would really like to own.

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Amen! Good luck with the sale.
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Default Re: 1969 RS/Z Black 45k miles Original Paint

Great looking car.

If it does not have the original engine, I'm somwhat suprised/confused at the $100K asking price.

Most opinions were in the $30-$50 range back in May 07 when this car was 1st purchased. Yes the cars been cleaned up. Yes the engine had been gone through. What supports this type of asking price w/out the original engine? How does it go from $35K-$50K to $100K in 6 months?

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Default Re: 1969 RS/Z Black 45k miles Original Paint

1) Look at the build dates of the car, the VIN, the firewall tag, and the engine block and they all are in the normal casting/assembly time span for a 3rd week April 1969 car. If you cant have the original block, this is as close as you are ever going to get.

2) It's a survivor in factory black with the original paint and all it's original components including the silver grill.

3) It's in amazing shape and I'd love to own the darn thing if I win the lottery or the Superbowl pool.
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I agree with the statements, but I thought only documented cars with a iron clad owner trail would command this type of price.
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Default Re: 1969 RS/Z Black 45k miles Original Paint

<font color="red">{ What supports this type of asking price } </font>

he can ask whatever price he likes.
he, or she, could ask for 250k.
the value or "market" will be wherever buyer and seller eventually meet if a sale takes place.
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[ QUOTE ]
<font color="red">{ What supports this type of asking price } </font>

he can ask whatever price he likes.
he, or she, could ask for 250k.
the value or "market" will be wherever buyer and seller eventually meet if a sale takes place.

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I fully understand this concept 100%. I'm just trying to figure out how the car "may have" doubled in value in 6 months.
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Default Re: 1969 RS/Z Black 45k miles Original Paint

Rob, I think you can only say "doubled" if it indeed sells for that much. An asking price can be anything and shouldn't be used as a benchmark. The selling point here is the low mileage, original paint and just overall originality. Heck, you can't beat the options on this car, black with RS... Even though the motor is long gone it's a very nice replacement. Fully restored cars are a dime a dozen. It's the survivor type cars that are always in demand.

Heck, if anyone wants my restored original drivetrain Z for $100k I'm open to discuss...

Again, if I had the $ it would be on its way to my house already.
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