69 Z-28 survivor

[Steve Shauger]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">let's be realistic.
Bloomington guidelines refer to cars that have been sitting in a garage for 40 years,probably in a museum.
sure they have all the original parts,but that's because they havent moved in 40 years.

i have seen examples that dont fit that criteria be considerred a &quot;survivor&quot; that arent museum pieces,that amaze me,though.

but this Z28 actually defines survivor by being &quot;driven&quot;.
sure,the original alternator and water pump puked over the years,and it got another paint job,but that is because it's been &quot;driven&quot;.

i fail to see the &quot;big deal&quot; factor in a car that sits in a garage for 40 years,only to be brought out and proclaimed &quot;survivor' because it still has the original air in the tires,or the spare tire still smells like rubber.

impress me,and fire that museum piece up,and run it down the 1/4,without that &quot;original&quot; fan belts,water pump,and alternator going south.

to be a survivor,you should survive something,other than time

this is only my opinion,nothing more. </div></div>

I don't want to get into a pissing match here but your first statement could not be further from the truth (you need to get informed before you make inaccurate statements). The operation phase of the certification is essential and includes a monitored 30 mile drive and includes all operational and functional areas.

Without some guidelines, anyone could call or classify a car what ever they wanted. Without certifications and standards such as a #1, 2, 3 or 4, buyers and sellers would be talking apples and oranges. Standards are important and protect us all from wasting a lot of time on wild goose chases and misrepresentation. Camaro standards and terminology mirror the Corvette world to a high degree (why reinvent the wheel)

The thinking (IMHO) behind a car that is categorized as a survivor or benchmark is that it sets the standards by which cars should be built/restored to (represent how they left the factory). Yes these cars may be pampered to some degree, but they do represent historical data that would be lost if modified or restored; which may not be the utmost importance to you, but to the purist and professional restorer these cars are the holy grail. LV's COPO that sold yesterday is a great example.

Just for your information many survivor cars have been thrashed and have well over 100K miles, but they are well preserved and for the most part unrestored. I will send you the guidelines that our program Vintage Camaro subscribe to, and I recommend visiting the Bloomington, or the NCRS site as you may come away enlightened.

BTW I drive the snot out of my survivor cars. They are like driving in a time capsule back in the 60's. Yes they are great cars warts and all.

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