Repro Pontiac round port/Oldsmobile W30 cyl heads

[HO455]

So much for this seller's theory that NO 1969 Broadcast sheets-say W-30. Here is a car purchased November 1969 with a broadcast sheet that clearly is marked W-30. Maybe I am just confused though.

http://www.colinsclassicauto.com/detail.php?car=12

[Johnny Horsepower]

i have been told that 70 olds buildsheets do not have a vin!??!

John

[SmallHurst]

I just love his marketing scheme!!!! Start out with a '69 Cutlass, add this kit and some water.... poof Instant H/O!!!!
(1969 - 1969 Cutlass/442 ) HURST OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS FACTORY APPEARANCE KIT H/O - COMPLETE KIT TO CONVERT ANY 1969 CUTLASS "S" 442 OR CONVERTIBLE INTO A 69 HURST OLDS LOOK-A-LIKE. KIT INCLUDES: 1 DUAL SNORKEL HOOD SCOOP, 1 PAIR OF SPECIAL MIRRORS AND MOUNTING HARDWARE, 1 REAR SPOILER WING, 3 HURST OLDS EMBLEMS, 455 H/O SCOOP DECALS, 1 DOC WATSON GLOVE BOX EMBLEM ANOTHER PART NOT INCLUDED THAT WOULD TAKE YOUR CAR UP A NOTCH IS A SET OF ORIGINAL 455 "D" HEADS, WHICH WE ARE ALSO REPRODUCING. WITH THE PARTS WE MAKE YOU CAN BUILD AN EXACT DUPLICATE OF THE FAMED 1969 HURST OLDS

The price tag of all of this--$929. Used to be the mirrors alone were close to this price. Granted, nothing can replace paperwork and original owners, but this is borderlining on stupid easy clones!!!

[StealthBird]

Well, you guys that own real W-30 cars, and have no problem with clones because you believe they raise the value of your real, authentic, matching numbers W-30, just wait and see how hard it will be to sell your car when some Oldsmobile guys begin doing this....

http://www.yenkocamaroparts.com/information.htm

Last Thursday (on Thanksgiving), I gave thanks to Pontiac Historical Services for eliminating any doubt that my 1969 Firebird 400 wasn't born a 6-banger 1967 Camaro.

[RM Schimel]

Bird Man


Wow 200K-not too bad for a clone. Wonder what a real one with perfect docs is worth?$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ PHS is nice but really only comes into play on cars worth more than 30 or 40K -RM

[666 the legend]

[ QUOTE ]
I just love his marketing scheme!!!! Start out with a '69 Cutlass, add this kit and some water.... poof Instant H/O!!!!
(1969 - 1969 Cutlass/442 ) HURST OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS FACTORY APPEARANCE KIT H/O - COMPLETE KIT TO CONVERT ANY 1969 CUTLASS "S" 442 OR CONVERTIBLE INTO A 69 HURST OLDS LOOK-A-LIKE. KIT INCLUDES: 1 DUAL SNORKEL HOOD SCOOP, 1 PAIR OF SPECIAL MIRRORS AND MOUNTING HARDWARE, 1 REAR SPOILER WING, 3 HURST OLDS EMBLEMS, 455 H/O SCOOP DECALS, 1 DOC WATSON GLOVE BOX EMBLEM ANOTHER PART NOT INCLUDED THAT WOULD TAKE YOUR CAR UP A NOTCH IS A SET OF ORIGINAL 455 "D" HEADS, WHICH WE ARE ALSO REPRODUCING. WITH THE PARTS WE MAKE YOU CAN BUILD AN EXACT DUPLICATE OF THE FAMED 1969 HURST OLDS

The price tag of all of this--$929. Used to be the mirrors alone were close to this price. Granted, nothing can replace paperwork and original owners, but this is borderlining on stupid easy clones!!!

[/ QUOTE ]..Got any PICS of your" STINKY H/O"..?? What # is yours..?? Mine's # 57

[SmallHurst]

My stinky H/O! The original owner failed to send in paperwork for the little owners tag. I have never tried to search out the original owner as he spent time in the 'iron bar hotel'.

[666 the legend]

[ QUOTE ]
My stinky H/O! The original owner failed to send in paperwork for the little owners tag. I have never tried to search out the original owner as he spent time in the 'iron bar hotel'.

[/ QUOTE ]...Is your VIN # in the DEMMER records..??

[Canuck]

With total producting for 70-72 W30 converts being less than 500 and the survivor rate being 50-60% its no wonder these cars trade hands without the help of auctions or public sales.
Having said that I know of two 70 W30 converts that sold in the past month after being on ebay. What is more public than that? Both cars needed restoration. I can count 5 more that changed hands in the past year,again various degrees of restoration or preservation quality. I know of 6 71 W-30 converts that changed hands in the past year, two on ebay,2 through dealers and two privately.
Keep in mind that the low production is directly related to low turnover.
Ironicly,in my youth I was always led to believe that Buick was the number two division to Cadillac in terms of being upscale. I guess the way GM marketed themselves led to that. Olds was always alligned with Chevrolet and Buick was alligned with Pontiac franchises. The majority,as I saw it had Cadillac dealers in the mix with Chev and Olds.
As far as there not being any nice 442 W30 cars for sale to the general public,its all about the numbers. Not too many Hemi Cuda's either. You will see Hemi Cuda's at BJ though and possible not too many Olds because in the past they do have not gotten the attention they deserve. Maybe the 08 auctions will be different?

[SmallHurst]

Devil!

I thought I had stated that my car is not on the partial list. They found a complete list of '68's and about 500 of the 906 '69's. Does that make mine more rare???