Would a 435HP vette be considered a SUPERCAR?

[Late BrakeU2]

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OK, I know I'll regret this but let's give it a try anyway.

The L-78 Camaro you reference, although a rare animal for 1970, was in fact available to the general public through ANY Chevy Dealer, just like the 435 HP Corvette. The LT-1 Nova (aka Deuce) was NOT an RPO code for the Nova in 1970. It was a specially built car made possible through the COPO process. General consensus here (the Supercar Registry/ sYc) is that RPO optioned cars DO NOT fall into the 'SUPERCAR' category as defined by this site.

Another example: In 1968 an automatic transmission WAS NOT available to the general public behind the L-78 in a Nova. Fifty of those cars were built; COPO 9738. In 1969 it was available to the general public so the M-40 equipped L-78 Novas in '69 & '70 are not considered SUPERCARS.

Confusing? It really has nothing to do with huge horsepower, or whether it's a BBC or SBC. It's more about Factory/Dealer built specialty cars here.

On other sites you'll find other SUPERCARS, such as Ferraris, Lambos, Maseratis, etc. It just depends on where you are.

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O.K ..so if it's agreed that any RPO cars are excluded semantically from Supercar reverence,do the GMMG C5R race case cars qualify? They were only available through a limited dealer network-just like Bill Thomas/Dana/Nickey/Yenko,and were even emissions legal.Before you call them tuner cars,remember they share the same GM motorsports blocks which are in the ALMS Vettes that have won over 40 races from Lemans to Sebring to Daytona-pretty much mirroring what the L88's accomplished nearly forty years earlier.

[kwhizz]

Another thing to consider.......is if the Car has a "Caution Fan Sticker"..........

Ken

[m22mike]

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Another thing to consider.......is if the Car has a "Caution Fan Sticker"..........

Ken

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Wait a darn minute here....I want equal time for the up side down cowl induction seal too !
Mike A

[camarojoe]

A supercar does not have to be a COPO ordered car if it is dealer modified...Ala Baldwin-Motion. Most if not all Motion cars were RPO ordered cars from GM, but were heavily modified from there, similar to the newer cars you're talking about. If an RPO ordered 435hp Corvette (the car mentioned in the original question) was modified at Motion, Yenko, etc. then it WOULD be considered a Supercar, even though it was not a COPO. This topic is as simple to some/difficult to others as the "what is a rebody" thread.

[Paul D]

Is a 1963 Z-11 a Super Car?

[69hurstSC]

so a police car built by chevrolet is a RPO and not a supercar? what if said police car came with hi-po parts and special suspension?

who needs some popcorn....or a gun!

[camarojoe]

A police car is a police car. RPO, COPO, COP Co., whatever... if its black and white with 4 door handles it ain't a supercar. Gimme that gun.

[69hurstSC]

and one last thing.. is the Pete Estes built 68 Z28 vert considered a SuperCar?

[camarojoe]

That's a good question... personally, I just think it's a specially made convertible Z, and am glad they only built 1. I'll run for cover now with my popcorn and my gun...

I admitedly don't know much about how the '63 Z11's were built/ordered, but I'm guessing they'd fall into the category of Supercar pretty easily but I'm not sure...was the Z11 option an RPO? I guess if it was, they're not "Supercars" by definition, but are bad ass either way. The same can be said for many cars of the era.

[Belair62]

Z11 was an RPO...those were in the days of the FACTORY wars...as was Super Duty and Max Wedge stuff...the dawning of an era that made COPO cars possible.