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I do not own the L89 for sale! I do however have a fully documented original body, original engine Copo for sale. I would like for anyone interested to personally come and see my car. I have every stich of documentation and paperwork from previous owners. In addition to that I have the entire restoration very well photographed from start to finish. I find it very interesting that the people questioning the authenticity of things neither own a rare car and in most cases have never actually built a car of any description! Just an observation! I would gladly pay Mr.Jerry M's fee to document my car should someone be serious about purchasing. If there are any other questions about my cars or the quality of restoration please refer to the previous thread about my car when it was for sale last year. That should clear up any questions about its authenticity. [/ QUOTE ] Nobody was answering Terry's initial question so on my way home, I pulled a UVIP on the car so that it can be clear who owns it and who this "one owner" was. For those of you not living in Ontario, a UVIP is a document which can be purchased by anyone (even online) who is considering purchasing an Ontario based vehicle. Many states have a similar program and I do recommend spending the extra time and money when buying an expensive car. All that is required is a VIN number OR the license plate number. This document identifies the car in question, whether there are any liens on it, it's current owner and the cars previous owners. In other words, you get vehicle history. Here is the UVIP for this car: ![]() ![]() As indicated in Section 2 above, the current owner is Phillip Robinson who is Richard English's business partner at Camaro Heaven (unless things have changed). Phillip took ownership of the car on June 6, 2006. Section 3 of an Ontario UVIP identifies all previous owners of a car. Richard English took ownership of this car on July 15, 2005 from David James Mattina and Mathew G. Langford. David James Mattina and Mathew G. Langford registered this car on Spetember 17, 2004. So what surprised me is when I compared the information on this official state document to the selling information on the Hemmings ad, a few questions came to light: 1. The Hemmings ad indicates this car as being a one owner car yet when I look at the UVIP, it was co-owned by 2 guys. Did the two guys buy the car together in 1969? They would have had to if the Hemmings claim is true. 2. Why if David Mattina / Matthew Langford were in fact the original owners as claimed, did they only register the car on September 17, 2004, 35 years after buying it? I would think the car would have been in a state not requiring a full resto if that was the case. 3. In the Hemmings ad it mentions that seller is in possesion of a letter from the original owner indicating that the M22 "transmission was replaced after just a few weeks of service". Who might that person be? 4. Why does the car have a fake trim tag on it if it has so few owners? Who put the fake trim tag on the car? 5. Which one of the 3(4) owners restored the car? This are just questions that came to mind after reviewing this public/published information. How come the owner can't come onto this site and clear up any issues? You are trying to sell a car for $225,000!!!! Do you think people are stupid enough to hand over that kind of cake without the questions above being answered? Mr. Robinson, if you want to sell your car, I suggest you respond to my questions.
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It is impossible to certify a COPO or Z/28 as authentic without verifying that it is not a rebody... |
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