69 Yenko Camaro

[Tommy]

The car was raced a lot at Paragould. I was given photo albums to make copies from. It was also run at Sikeston if I remember correct and also at Ozark International in Springfield. He mentioned others but I didn't write it all down. I know the car was in the Salem, MO area and the Poplar Bluff, MO area from a couple of owners. I go to Poplar bluff once a month and I have an appt with that guy coming up soon. We talked for a while the other day and he told me some neat things about the car.

Tommy

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

This situation happened recently here in PA. The car with the vin had to give it back to the car with the firewall. Now there is a real Yenko with it's vin plate back, and a clone with a empty hole in the dash - just the way it should be.

Unfortunately, it took 15+ years, but diligence pays off

[COPO]

I foresee lots of lawsuits being filed soon on this one. I'm sure the guy who bought the set of Yenkos at the auction isn't going to be real happy with losing $250K or so of value.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Charlie is right, there will probably be a suit. There was/is a few with the PA car. However, it's settling down now and it appears that the guy with the clone took it in the shorts.

[ProdigyCustoms]

If the car in question is indeed the 5000 mile orange car, it is probably the same car Super Chevy's (row of LS6's) had in 1989. I am 100% certain Super Chevy's bought it restored. I am also fairly certain it was bought from Los Gatos Ferrari whom also bought it restored, but I might be wrong on where Super Chevy's bought it. I know it was a dealer that had it, that I am fairly certain the selling dealer did not do the restoration either. Super Chevy's bought it in the summer of 1989. Super Chevys sold it in the parking lot in Scotsdale after no saleing it at the 1990 BJ auction. I want to say it brought $90K bids. All the heavy hitters were on it. I want to say it was sold to someone in Idaho? Iowa? to a collector, and I want to say it was $97K. I looked that car over and cannot remeber finding a hidden VIN under the cowl, but it is not hard for that to be painted out anyway. If there would have been any noticable problem, Super Chevy's would have stuffed it back to the dealer they bought it from in a second. No one ever suspected the car was a rebody so in those days nobody over scrutinized these cars. They were ONLY worth $100K then! ONLY $100K! That was monster money in 1990.

So if this is indeed the same VIN number as the hidden VIN car, someone obviously made a deal to buy a VIN tag from the race car and let the owner of the original race car keep the race car. I am not sure who is more of the crook in this deal. The guy that may have built a car around a VIN tag, or the guy that sold the car twice! It is a real shame, because at the time, the orange car was probably the nicest restored Yenko around, hence the record sale in 1989. Except for a less then perfect urethane single stage paint job that really needed some attention. The rest of the car was super nice even including what appeared to be excellent original interior. The car was really done by a pro to look as real as it did.

I do not remeber the car having any pedigree stating who did the restoration. If it was a big name, seems I would have rembered it.

[Allen]

I'm surprised this thread got so quiet.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Nobody knows where the car is with the vin plate on it, nor who actually performed the rebody

[Tommy]

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My cell phone sure hasn't been the last couple of days. I may go over my minutes this month.. No calls from the owner of the other car though ...

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I think I figured out the picture thing finally....

Tommy

[Racefan]

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I'm not. This is a real issue, and I can think of atleast one other green 69 sitting in a farmer's ditch with hidden VINs that wouldn't make a current owner too happy. But, I have discussed this with individuals here before....and no one wants to discuss this. Seems that this was a pretty common practice by some in the 80's. Is there a statute of limitations on these fraudulent acts?

I have also said before I went silent for 18 months that it is a shame that there are those out there who know about these cars and don't speak up. Everyone is quick to provide a list publicly of the VINs in certain cases....but no one wants to speak about the known VINs of cars that have "issues". I am not sure who is more fraudulent, those who produce/sell these rebodies or those who have info and don't make it known.

If I were to re-pop a x-ram manifold and sell them on eBay, people would be quick to point this activity out. Rebody a ZL-1 or Yenko....and depending on who you are, people may never hear of it.

[ChevyThunder]

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. I am also fairly certain it was bought from Los Gatos Ferrari whom also bought it restored, but I might be wrong on where Super Chevy's bought it.

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I know the old Ferrari of Los Gatos going way back . They were dealing in muscle cars for years. Has there been any discussion of thier reputation on the board. Is it one that may lead people to beleive that any car they had could be bogus based on previous situations/reputation ? They have been Bentley of Silicon Valley for at least 5 years now and are now owned by Symbolic . No longer a factory Ferrari dealer.