A different Point of View ....

[kwhizz]

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Agreed!!!
The teaching liberals make me ill. They are also destroying this countrys moral fiber. They love to push the Gay agenda, and while i don't have a problem with homosexuality, it does not need to be in the face of impressionable kids ALL THE TIME.

I am scared for what my 2 1/2 year old son will face.
Luckily i will be vigilant in his upbringing.

John

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And they can get away with it because the ACLU has Sued everyone under the Sun to do away with "Common Sense and Decency" (Lawyers again)

Ken

[427TJ]

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(Lawyers again)

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So are any lawyers gonna' defend themselves here?

Kim: Corporations run this country, period. The lunatic fringes on both sides---on ALL sides---make a lot of noise but corporations control things. I love being a consumer and I love some of the stuff that corporations bring us but they control this place, not anybody else.

As for liberal educators, don't send your kid to those colleges. Doesn't (the late) Jerry Falwell have Liberty University? Send your kid(s) there. There are plenty of conservative colleges and professors out there. Do your homework and don't send your kid to a school with staff you don't agree with politically.

By the way, most college kids are liberal-ish because they're poor college kids and are feeling rebellious from being out on their own for the first time. They're also under intense pressure to get good grades and to succeed so they rebel against the pressure by lashing-out at authority (or hitting the keg). Ten years from now they will be invested in the American Dream and will slowly become more conservative and fall in love with making (and keeping) money. It happened to the Baby-Boomers. They exploded in the 1960s and brought us free love, free drugs, free sex, anti-war movements, acid rock, and on and on. Then they turned 25 and said to themselves, "Hey, I'd better get my s-it together and start making money because this colloge-kid poverty thing SUCKS." They went to Harvard and Wellesley and got their MBAs and law degrees and dove into the stock market in the booming 1980s. They may have hated Reagan publicly but they loved their stock portfolio's performance. Now many of the Boomers are very well off and although they wear old tie-dyed T-shirts to mow the grass, they drive BMW SUVs and Porsche Cayenne turbos and watch their stock portfolios VERY closely as they sip their Starbucks Chi tea.*

Getting back to your kids, you need to educate your children as much as you can yourself (you and the spouse) while they are growing up. Then, when some professor begins to spout his/her ideology in the classroom your child can say, "Wait a minute, that's your opinion and I have my own." It's up to parents to get their kids ready for life's little tests so that they can identfy BS and propaganda when they hear it. Don't send your kid to a college until you have done some investigation first. If they're too liberal then go somewhere else, it's like a radio dial: don't like what you hear? Switch stations or turn the damn thing off. You have freedom of choice in the United States and you can say no thank you and take your business elsewhere.

I had a few opinionated professors in college and I knew when they were sneaking-in their views in class. (That was the Reagan era and many profs would work-in their anti-Reagan views in History and Poli-Sci classes.) Lucky for me I had great parents who talked to their kids a LOT while we were growing up so I knew bull when I heard it--all kinds of bull from all angles. You have to skim that crap off the top to get to the information you need. The propaganda bounced off of me (okay, I think some of you are disagreeing with that) and I did my work and passed my exams and got the hell out of there. If you don't like a school's point of view then you have to either voice your disagreement and try to change things or move your kid out of there.

GET INVOLVED. Volunteer at your kids' schools. Get to know their teachers and other parents and what the curriculum is at the school. Don't just bitch about it, get involved. My kids come home and ask all kinds of questions all the time and my wife and I spend a lot of time explaining things to them. It's called raising your children. I try to allow them to keep an open mind and I try not pepper the explanation with too much of my own ideas. I try to present information neutrally and let them grasp the information for themselves and form their own points of view. Granted, they will grow up and be a lot like me in many ways but I want them to be themselves and make their own decisions. If they decide to be politically different than me then that's fine, just as long as they come by the house and have dinner once in a while.

*In 1985 when I was in college in the Bay Area I heard that Gerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead had been arrested in Golden Gate Park for posession (of illegal drugs). He was found passed-out in his--get this--BMW! So Mr. Flower-Power, Captain Trips, the father of the Summer of Love and free everything was found passed-out in his BEEMER! I laughed my ass off! What, a 1958 VW Bus isn't good enough for ya Gerry???? I hammered my liberal-ish friends on that one. I love the Dead but they loved their money just as much as any Reagan conservative--or anyone else with a brain does.

Time to drive more deck screws.

[Kim_Howie]

Bill, I like big Corps. They make everybody money, haven't seen a poor person make money for anybody yet. Your comment about getting involved is dead right done it my comm. for over 30 years.I have told several people Quit your bitching and get involved and change it.

[nuch_ss396]

Bill,

What do you charge per ticket for your seminars?

I think you should come to my house for a talk with my daughters

Steve

[427TJ]

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Bill,

What do you charge per ticket for your seminars?

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Naah, this is as far as I go with my opining . You guys get the best of me and no one else.

[Kim_Howie]

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Liberal indoctrination begins the second our govt. education sys gets it's hands on your child. 3 year olds are building "peace trees". American children are now indoctrinated with the idea that nothing is worth the price of war. Like Hanoi Jane said, "Better red than dead".

My youngest daughter graduated from the University of Tenn. last year. In 5 years she had TWO professors who were not left of Stalin. She was constantly in a battle with one or more of these Micheal Moore clones. I did nothing but encourage her. The day she graduated a retiring prof. began her speech with the horrors of 'Big Business' in America and Global Warming. In keeping with our previous agreement I immediately got up and walked out. Several other parents did the same. When my daughter got her diploma see too walked out.

Conservative universities are few and far between. The hatred of America, liberty, capitalism and our free enterprise sys being taught to American children is really no different than the hatred of America being taught to children in the middle east (in fact, all over the world).

[kwhizz]

Conservative universities are few and far between. The hatred of America, liberty, capitalism and our free enterprise sys being taught to American children is really no different than the hatred of America being taught to children in the middle east (in fact, all over the world).

Like Ward Churchill in Colorado.......Another Moron.....

Ken

I know Jake's Grand Dad.......

[427TJ]

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The hatred of America, liberty, capitalism and our free enterprise sys being taught to American children is really no different than the hatred of America being taught to children in the middle east (in fact, all over the world).

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I don't know if you've noticed, but Western/American capitalism is alive and doing VERY, VERY, VERY WELL. Anti-capitalists might 'try' to indoctrinate our kids---and some are successful I suppose but those kids become angry losers---BUT the desire to have a car(s), a house, air conditioning, a pool, a boat, a bath every day, freedom of thought, freedom of speech, freedom of worship, freedom to go outside of one's tribe to find a companion, and on and on---that desire is RAMPANT across the world. Only the few, noisy malcontents like al Queda, Communists (old-school Communists, not the Chinese gov't), anarchists, and a few others make up such a small minority that they almost cannot be quantifed when compared to the BILLIONS who want what we in the West have. The minority that makes noise usually gets the attention it seeks, thanks to 24-hour cable news that needs SOMETHING to fill all that time, but rarely does that minority really get its way. Remember the WTO (World Trade Organization) riots here in Seattle several years ago? The anarchists made a big noise and all the local news and CNN/Fox/etc. all covered it from every angle. It was just like London during the German blitz in 1940-41 with newspeople on the rooftops and mayhem in the sreeets. Then the police moved in and kicked the s-it out of the protesters and dispersed them. Things calmed down after a few days and the angry anarchists, who are not going to change anything no matter how many windows they break, went back to their daily lives not having made any difference. People may sympathize (liberal professors, etc.) but damn-near every human being on this planet wants what Americans enjoy daily. (Americans may sympathize but we forget all about it once we are inside Costco.)

Ask any poor Indian (in India) what he wants and he'll say, "Air conditioning." Prod him some more and he'll say, "An Escalade with air conditioning." Keep prodding and you have an American consumer ready to go, just give him a job and credit and he has been won-over by capitalism. China too. The Chinese want it so bad that I wouldn't rule-out some kind of revolution someday--they almost succeeded in 1989. The Communist Chinese ruling body had better keep buying-off the population with consumerism because that's the only way they'll hold power in this Internet/cable news century, barring massive bloodshed (transmitted worldwide on the Internet and cable news television--way too risky for the Chinese gov't).

I know, it seems as if we are losing our hold on everything and we have to blame someone. The low-end of the AM radio dial is full of screamers warning of the coming doom unless we do something. Liberal professors and colleges have been around for a long time and capitalism (and liberty) just keeps roaring along. It roars along and tosses all those whining anti-capitalists overboard and does NOT look back! You either get onboard with capitalism or you will immediately become a forgotten loser.

Those people you mention who hate America--they are a vocal yet EXTREMELY SMALL minority and have no real effect except to piss-off AM radio hosts who need something to rail against to keep you angry and listening and buying the products his radio show advertises. (Capitalism again.) Look around: America is alive and well and thriving. Yeah, the stock market collapse of 2000-2001 really put a dent in my portfolio (I didn't get out fast enough) but it's been coming back (capitalism!) and I am not worried. Oh, and give American kids some credit. They may enjoy hearing anti-American screed from college professors because it suits their rebellious nature as college kids. But 99.999% of our youth cannot wait to get out of school and start BUYING STUFF. I remember it well. I bought an '87 LX 5.0 brand new with my college grad discount at Hayward Ford and the rumble of those stainless pipes and the pull of that little 302 (uphill in 3rd with the a/c on high) made me instantly forget any of that anti-whatever crap I had experienced during the past four years.

EVERYBODY ON EARTH wants liberty, capitalism and our free enterprise system for themselves, even hard-core al Queda crazies. (Osama bin Laden is from an incredibly wealthy family, by the way. How's that for irony?) You could take an al Queda foot-soldier out of his element, detox him for a few months, and then immerse him in capitalsim by giving him a decent job, a car, and freedom of everything. Maybe 1 in 50 would resist but eventually the other 49 would see that what we have in America is what they wanted all along: freedom, liberty, and yes, capitalism. Our founding fathers were not stupid.

[nuch_ss396]

[quote..... Our founding fathers were not stupid.

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Correct - But they also weren't liberals either