Black LS6 4sp Barn Find "Need Advice"

[69hurstSC]

i love cars in this condition! unrestored non-drivers seem to be rarer than there restored counterparts. between the Dana car and this LS6 thats a couple of very cool musclecars that you dont get to see in this condition very often.

[Rixls6]

Clean it up, straighten out the mess under the hood, and drive it.

But seriously, love the as found look. VIN on the block by the oil filter is definitely 70 Van Nuys built.

Are you able to read the partial VIN by the oil filter?

[king_midas]

Don't be too sure in your deduction that it is the real thing-- That car looks to have been ridden hard and put away wet, and is missing the correct shifter, etc... Also, check out the wear on the clutch pedal-- Make sure the mileage matches the pedals, as the pedals are the biggest tell-tale sign of all if a car is the real thing or not as far as matching the odo..

Don't forget that the LS-6 was a premier car back in the day, and was so to second-hand buyers as well; 10 or so years gives the car time to fall into the wrong hands, where it could have received parts from another car, etc... The VIN is convincing, but your right about the lack of docs, as anyone can put the VIN there these days. My brother and I used to do the same with Trans-Ams; there's more than one car that we transplanted the entire running gear, including radiator and alt, from one to another.

Your best bet is to give the person the $100 for right of first refusal. It may not even cost you that much-- I did that with an old German car, and it proved to be the best thing I ever did. Think of it this way-- If your heart got the best of you and you paid what this crazy market makes people think stuff is worth, and it turned out to be bogus, it would cost you much more than $100.

Just my $.02...

[firstgenaddict]

What is a real Black Ls6 with an M22 worth? 125k?
You would have to just document the hell everything possible when restoring the car... I do not know very much about the Chevelle's but I am sure someone will chime in on the VIN location on the engine... also I do believe it is fairly common to find build sheets in Chevelles... do not knowabout LA assembled cars though...

If it is the real deal (and from first observations it does appear to be) obviously having 65k in it completed would be a steal...

[king_midas]

Oh yeah, and if you find out after you dig in that it is the real thing and the price is right, you just scored...

[JIM]

Buy It !!! before some one else does !!! I'm interested if Your not

Jim

[firstgenaddict]

Yea I am interested in it as well... it would look SWEET next to the Black 69 Z...

[3macs1]

Sweet for sure.
I think her pedals are worn too much so she is not real. Truth is her pedals are so worn because her miles were 1/4 at a time.
Papers, look at her and close your eyes then open them and you are back in the mid 70's. Anyone that had one of these cars back then will know where I am coming from. I got goose bumps looking at these pictures. That engine compartment was mine as well as most of the real deal ls-6's back then.Suprise many of todays trailor queens looked like this also in the day.She was a true road warrior driven the way she was made to. PS removed, headers installed,intake and carb replaced, dist, accel super coil, Holly fuel pump reg and pump in rear,mr gasket two piece wing nuts, moroso solid mounts.Where is the line lock and moroso cool can???
Radio taken out to save weight and to stop you from busting your hand when it slid off the shifter, which was the first thing you changed. Original shifter boot and ring however to remain.
Look at the side tail pipes like we all had for quick removal at the strip.
Boy if she could talk the stories she could tell. She is worth restoring for that alone.
Will she bring 125K probally not without papers regardless of the fact she is more real than many of the so called documented ones.Will you lose on her with 65 to 70 invested never especially if you totally document her restoration.
Her sister sits about 25 miles from me also black m22 bench.I thought it was long gone but found it in just the last year. It has been sitting 25 years.If it comes up for sale papers or not I will have it since I am not into them for the investment.Break even is fine.
Good Luck but I would not sit on this now that the word is out

[TXSS]

Thanks for the comments.

The VIN is easily readable even on my back with one eye closed holding a flash light in my mouth.

I think the chances of this car being in this condition and being a re-stamp or a created LS6 is remote at best. There's no speedo cable so in my mind mileage on the OD is irrelevant. If I'm reading the clutch peddle pad correctly (as shown in the picture) and I may not be as I'm new at clutch peddle pad reading it looks to me to be as worn-out as the rest of the car. I guess that's a good thing.

The car is going nowhere as I have locked up right of first refusal. My interest in the car is very high maybe too high. When I feel like this about a car I sometimes, ok always pay to much. I've been contacted by a number of members expressing an interest in the car. However, I'm not trying to sell a car I don't own, I'm trying to buy a car I don't own. I'll worry about selling/restoring later. The seller is not a car guy but suffers from a slight case of barrettjacksonitis. So, what's it worth.

Thanks

[Hotrodpaul]

I would drop the fuel tank, the LA plant frequently put build sheets on the top drivers side. Hopefully moisture and rodents have not destroyed it.

Paul