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Old 03-06-2007, 07:50 PM
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The real Question to ask The Grump. What is the Vin # to that car and is it found !!!!
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Old 03-06-2007, 08:51 PM
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You guys are great !
I know someone who might be able to ask him in the future, but don´t count on it.
I´m with Sam on this one. I don´t believe he raced a factory ZL-1 car, but rather coverted an "all iron"-car with a CAN AM-block.
That car COULD be in Sweden ! NickeySwede told me some time ago that his research made him believe that four of "Grumpy´s" cars came here in the seventies. At least one of those went through to Finland.


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Old 03-06-2007, 09:19 PM
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The real Question to ask The Grump. What is the Vin # to that car and is it found !!!!

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The VIN is hardly a secret.

If you believe you know the whereabouts of the car post the VIN. Last I heard it was in NE.
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William, Are you talking about the '69 car? Always have been curious as to it's whereabouts. I've tried to talk to Jenkins about the '69 but never got much info. It's a shame he's so difficult....a lot of info will be gone forever one day.
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I don't have a clue where it's at. I take it you know the Vin???
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About two years ago at the York US30 Musclecar Madness event, I asked The Grump about the whereabouts of the '69 car as it was always (and still is) one of my favorites. He seemed kind of irritated that I asked but said he thought it was "out around Pittsburgh somewhere".
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Being a completely different block and with a bigger bore and lesser stroke I thought the Can-Am motors were always a different displacement than 427?.
Marketed as a 427 perhaps and I forget what they ended up at but in any variation the resulting cubes were always something other than 427?.

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Old 03-07-2007, 12:09 AM
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Being in the top league I guess you could buy a crank with any stroke you wanted. I have read that "Grumpy" commented the engine to someone saying something like: they (the tech inspectors) couldn´t tell the difference betwen the CAN AM block and the ZL-1 block.
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Old 03-07-2007, 05:43 AM
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I don't have a clue where it's at. I take it you know the Vin???

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I saw the paperwork for the 69 and a few other Toys via a mutual friend about 10 years ago. The 69 did not come from Ammon R Smith Chev for some reason. I cannot reveal any more as it is not my place to do so. No one to my knowledge is seeking the 69 as it is believed the current owner is aware of its pedigree.
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Grumpy best of 3 match race with the local hero at
West Hampton. Grumpy 2 for 3






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