ZL 1 #51

[deuce-less]

perhaps in the end the liability would lie with the person who 'knowingly' misrepresented an item jmo

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I think to get damages for fraud, you have to prove 'intent to deceive'. That's tough to do.

[Chevy454]

I agree, M...but "waivers" or whatever ain't the problem, what happened to people's integrity? This isn't just isolated to our hobby, but everyone any more??

[Charley Lillard]

So if someone has stamped and sold two blocks as the orig one for # 51 and still has a third one with the same stampings I would think that would fall into the "intent to decieve" category.

[Mr70]

In no way am I siding with anyone on here,or elsewhere but I thought it has been stated & established a few times in the past,that the true dollar value of a 1969 ZL-1 Camaro did not matter at all if it DID or DIDN'T have it's original born with engine.
As long as it was in the VIN List with clean history and deemed authentic as one of the real 1969 ZL-1 Camaros,it's value was as golden as the few others remaining.
The answer given repeatedly was because so few were originally made,only 69,this car was the exception to the normal car buyers guideline,and THESE buyers were willing to pay the highest amount just to have one,with or without it's original born with engine...period.
Did this change? Does not having it's original born with engine effect it's value that much today?

[SuperNovaSS]

The original engine always adds to the value. It is the awe factor that makes these cars so desireable and the fact that the car still has it original engine adds to that awe. I imagine that is why Reggie paid up to have the orginal fixed; I know I would have. Is this Lamar character the same guy that recently gave the shaft to GRB?


Jason

[NovaMob03]

No worries ya'll. Things seem to be cool between Reggie & Lamar. The block Reggie has is apparently one of the 4 blocks Lamar said he ran in the #51 car-still significant IMO. Also, the repair bill on the block was only $5200. I was told the block that was shown to Reggie (as the original) could be repaired.
I think there's another party involved now saying HE has the original block.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I agree with you there Rob, but it's just tough to prove 'intent'... What we need is a well publicized, landmark legal case to set the precedent and strike some fear into these bums.