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Old 12-12-2006, 06:14 AM
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Default Re: ZL 1 #36

Some people take offense to people pointing out things that they think are wrong with a restoration but
this is how we all learn how it should be. This car may have a few small details that need attention but I
must admit; They put a lot of time and effort into this car; Suck it up and get the facts straight on how it
should be; Fix the few problems and you have yourself a really Nice Car that anyone would be happy to park
in their garage.
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Old 12-12-2006, 06:33 AM
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Here is my .02 cents,
How about getting a shot at the body plugs being placed in upside down, the rear trunk drop offs not having the holes in them and those swaybar brackets don't look right to me....and aleast you could place AD stickers on the backing plates correctly. I can only imagine what else could be wrong. If I know the restorer right, I bet the tire hold down stud could hold down 2 rims and tires. Just my thoughts.....
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Old 12-12-2006, 07:38 AM
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No Brian, he got the tire hold down hook right on this one, but there was plenty of other things wrong.... Some restorers insist on doing things "their way" instead of the way that GM built the car. Alot of people like their cars done this way. It's totally up to them, but don't bring them to an event like this, where the cars are supposed to be done as they were at the factory, and expect to do well. It is my understanding, that the cars are judged for factory correctness, not what someone imagines them to look like. Maybe the owner of this car should have done his homework before placing this car in a shop for restoration, if he was after a factory correct restoration.
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Old 12-12-2006, 07:50 AM
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Default Re: ZL 1 #36

Top shelf car, imo.

...but might have a leak or two -- viz callout from Stefano's pic below:


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Old 12-12-2006, 07:51 AM
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Default Re: ZL 1 #36

The lower control arm bolts to the subframe are installed with the nut to the front rather than toward the rear. Anyone ever see a car with these installed this way from the factory. The reason I ask is that's the way the assembly manual shows the bolts installed.
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Old 12-12-2006, 03:17 PM
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If you study the assembly manuel you will see the control arm bolts in the way you describe, but I have seen many unrestored never before removed bolts in both directions...BKH
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Old 12-12-2006, 07:27 PM
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Default Re: ZL 1 #36

I have always felt one of the best parts of the VF judging system is that you are shown the judging sheets before they move on to the next car - and you sign them. This gives you the opportunity to discuss the deductions with the judges, and basically provides a lot of information as to what was found. This process can really help with learning curves - if factory correct is indeed the goal. If the goal is to restore the car to another set of standards, then discussing the deductions is a moot point.
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Old 12-12-2006, 07:44 PM
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I like that too,but also think it's very considerate of the VF judges to not judge any vehicle unless the owner is standing their quietly next to their vehicle at that certain time.If you're not,they leave a note on your windshield saying they waited for you and will return at a later time.If you still aren't there then,you vehicle will not get judged..and with good reason in my book.
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Old 12-12-2006, 11:03 PM
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Default Re: ZL 1 #36

Thanks Brian for your answer. We installed mine like the ZL1's and assembly manual, but have been told by some it's not correct. I don't think I've seen an original with them installed this way though. Good to hear you've seen them both ways.
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