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Old 12-11-2006, 04:28 AM
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Wonder how they got the steering arm to bolt to the spindle with the bolts in a$$backwards.....One of the things that make you go hmmmmm......

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Old 12-11-2006, 08:30 AM
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I'm guessing they had to grind off the threads that were sticking out past the nuts in order to not groove the rotors.
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Old 12-11-2006, 02:02 PM
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Wow... I wonder how the car scored?? Did the car compete for a spinner??
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Old 12-11-2006, 04:35 PM
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Who did the resto?
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Old 12-11-2006, 06:43 PM
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I was told the car was restored by Chuck Huber.
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Old 12-11-2006, 06:40 PM
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I don't usually get involved in any aspect of the Judging but I do have a few thoughts about Joe's ZL-1 and car show judging in general;

1. This is without a doubt one of the nicest restorations I have ever witnessed in person.
2. The judging sheets for this car are now being reviewed by my Judging supervisor, as there are several issues that may have been considered incorrect that may in fact be correct.
3. The "Non" Corvette entries and the levels of cars being entered in Chevy Vettefest have never been better, and I am interested in finding more recognized authorities who are qualified to properly judge these vehicles.
4. I am the first to admit that we need to improve the judging at Chevy Vettefest and it is my intent to do exactly that.
5. Nothing is ever "cut and dry" when it comes to judging any car, whether it be a Corvette or a Supercar at Chevy Vettefest or any other show.
6. It is absolutely 100% mandatory that any Chevy Vettefest judge be unbiased. If I find any proof that this is not the case, any person involved will be banned from our shows.

As stated, in my "humble opinion" this ZL1 is unquestionably one of the finest in the country, bar none.



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Old 12-11-2006, 06:44 PM
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Love the car also. ZL1's are just cool.
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Old 12-11-2006, 07:09 PM
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I think you have excellent judges...the ole 409 guys know their stuff pretty darn well...
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Old 12-11-2006, 10:52 PM
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any more pics of this car....if the subframe is that nice...what else should we see??
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Old 12-12-2006, 05:13 AM
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Bob...I'm guessing you are getting heat because apparently the ZL1 in this thread got a silver ? I know there has been crap between two web sites and the folks that restored this car are usually associated with the other web site and there always seems to be two sides picking each others cars apart. You can throw out my comments on this car if you wish but here are a couple and I'm trying to be unbiased, especially since the car is not from the so called Yenko.net camp. I saw the car in person and saw the resto book on display. In addition to the steering arm bolts being in backwards there were several other obvious errors on the car that even a non judge like me saw. I think the cowl induction air cleaner seal was inside out at Vettefest but in the pic on this thread it is now correct. The yellow paint marks on all the bolts I have never seen on a first gen Camaro and I have probably owned more than most. All 69 Camaros with Hurst shifted 4 speeds had the trans tunnel hole cut with a torch and the were a rough rectangle but this car had a little perfectly round non torch cut hole. If I had my car restored to the top level I would be pissed if that was the hole they did instead of the correct torch cut one. It might seem trivial to you but to a 69 Camaro guy that is a big mistake from a expert shop. If I recall it had Polyglas tires on it and I have never seen a 69 Camaro with Polyglas tires from the factory. The PCV hose in the pic appears to be straight with a sag instead of having a 90 degree bend like it should. The bolts in the pics posted holding the diff to the leaf springs appear to be two different length's. One doesn't appear to even come all the way thru the nut. This is not big stuff but it is wrong stuff. If I'm not judging this car and I saw this stuff I would imagine a judge would find more. Maybe none of this matters at Vettefest judging and I am way off but that was my worthless two cents.
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