02 zl1 camaro question

[Chevy454]

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According to Mike and Ron, the guys who built most if not all of them, they will run mid 11's all day on street tires.

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Uhhh...seems like Christensen was just running mid 11s @ around 120 at SCR5 *on stickies*...and he made a bajillion passes and was running the horse-piss outta the car. The "10.90" ET above I could see with work, but I'm not buying that 136 trap speed...

[Andy]

These cars should have no problems running in the 10s with the 427 motors. My friends 01 WS6 Trans Am(running at full weight) ran an 11.7 at 114. Car had a stock 346 c.i. LS1 short block, cnc'ed ls6 heads, comp 224/230 cam, 3800 stall, 3.73s, lower control arms and a set of mickey thompson e.t. streets. It was built by Mike and Ron at Vengeance Racing. They were the guys that built the Dick Harrell/ZL1 cars for GMMG. It dynoed a little over 400 to the tires. The automatic phase III ZL1s shouldn't have any problems getting into the tens. With the 6 speed cars, its up to the driver/traction. A little side note here, Ron and Mike are squeazing 500 rwhp out of stock ls1 short blocks now. They posted up a thread on ls1 tech a while back of an 02 SS with a 6 speed putting down 503 rwhp with heads, cam fast 90/90 setup, bigger injectors and a tune.

[GRB]

The mph I heard today was around 110 or was it 115. Don't recall but I'll find out next week.
Ron and Mike know what they are doing. That's why I've trusted them to rebuild my ZL1. Too bad I didn't use them to build my 427. I might have had a car that would actually run! Idiot!!

[shor]

what the heck happened?
i thought lamar built your engine?

[Late BrakeU2]

http://video.projectcamaro.com/hotte...95B9946D97.htm

[GRB]

LWA built the engine and added the ProCharger, plus every other modification that was done to the car. After requiring more than two years to build, the car went back to LWA via flat bed 4 times during the next year or so. Each time it had made it less (usually far less) than 10 miles and would end up staying in the shop 3-4 more months. Enough was finally enough.

[SMGCO]

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According to Mike and Ron, the guys who built most if not all of them, they will run mid 11's all day on street tires.

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Uhhh...seems like Christensen was just running mid 11s @ around 120 at SCR5 *on stickies*...and he made a bajillion passes and was running the horse-piss outta the car. The "10.90" ET above I could see with work, but I'm not buying that 136 trap speed...

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Ron you hit he nail right on the head. Only two words missing in front of the word " work ". " A " and " lot ".

Murphy is a very good honest man who knows what he is doing. He has been to my house , etc. I trust him totally. Their motors are very strong and built for reliability. They do not build the fastest cars by any means. He is the first person that will tell you that.

[Stefano]

I was told by Mike and Matt`, not to put words in their mouth, that the White 2002 Mule we had at SR6-7? ran in the high Tens with the automatic trans/ 12 bolt and the C5R 427 putting out over 600hp at the rear wheels.

I remember Larry telling me that he got his ZL1 to run a lot quicker once he got it to shift right and was able to come out of the hole a bit harder and not have to worry about granny shifting it?

[Chevy454]

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the White 2002 Mule we had at SR6-7? ran in the high Tens with the automatic trans/ 12 bolt and the C5R 427 putting out over 600hp at the rear wheels.

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I could definitely see that...600hp @ wheels is a lotta grunt! I was thinking the majority of the P3 '02 ZL1s were down around 475-500 @ wheels? The majority of those cars are relatively heavy, too...

I still laugh thinking of when "Big Dog" told me about running into his first '02 ZL1, while @ Bristol...he had his Stock Appearing '69 ZL1 there, and they wanted to do a mini-shootout type thing for a magazine. I guess they thought it was gonna be a cake walk, with an open headered/sticky tired '02 against the closed exhaust/Polyglass tired "original" looking '69. They make 1 pass, Terry drops an 11.3 @ 127 on them, the '02 is a step back at 11.6 @ like 120, but the shootout idea gets thrown out the window! He did tell me he was really impressed with the '02, though...

[BTW: I'm not knocking the cars, they're some of the sickest street cars out there...]

[Stefano]

Both cool cars but I'm more impressed with the '69.