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04-04-2007, 06:36 PM
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Re: Biscayne Resto Project
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Most Reproduction parts as sold are basically....."JUNK".....It seems the business's that sell this stuff just don't care.."You're the first one to ever have a problem"....... [/ QUOTE ] Ken, We hear you loud and clear on this one. I have been dealing with this for over 20 years and have worked very closely with some of the manufactures. I constantly ask, why when you are paying a designer to sit at a drafting table making the part while using an NOS original part to draw and measure from do you cut corners. It would have cost you NOTHING more to do it right the first time. Most of the things they scimped on were petty at best and there was absolutely no reason NOT to do it right the first time. I am constantly told the same thing you were, "you are the only one who has complained!"  I am not new to manufacturing processes and things like gas tanks, weatherstriping, door handles, carpet, emblems, decals, exhaust hangers, wiring harnesses, inner fenders, etc, etc, would have cost NO more to do them right the first time around. I boggles my mind but only a select few have changed their tooling and gotten better.  Rick
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Rick Nelson Musclecar Restoration and Design, Inc (retired) www.musclecarrestorationanddesign.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62r-6vgk2_8 specialized in (only real) LS6 Chevelle restorations 
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#2
04-04-2007, 06:47 PM
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Re: Biscayne Resto Project
This could start a whole discussion in itself. IF every reproduction part were dead-nutz correct, then we might have certain factions trying to present those parts as NOS! I'll fall back to the Build Sheet issue. When something IS reproduced authentically, then we cry about the possibility of misrepresentation. Not taking issue with anyone here; just looking at both sides of the coin. Something of a double-edged sword.
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04-04-2007, 07:21 PM
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Re: Biscayne Resto Project
I know.
I really need to just keep my mouth shut!  Ken and Rick know I'm not bangin on them. The honest guys in the hobby deserve their parts to be the highest quality. But you'll always (it seems) have that small group of misguided opportunists who are anxious to jump on the unsuspecting.OK, enough for now. Have Gags ban me and be done! 
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04-04-2007, 08:45 PM
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Re: Biscayne Resto Project
In many establishments today we can no longer write personal checks because of all the fraudulent people writing bogus checks. Another case of the innocent people paying the price for those who chose to take advantage.....
Rick
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Rick Nelson Musclecar Restoration and Design, Inc (retired) www.musclecarrestorationanddesign.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62r-6vgk2_8 specialized in (only real) LS6 Chevelle restorations
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04-04-2007, 09:50 PM
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Re: Biscayne Resto Project
 Even if you weren't, I never take you seriously. 
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04-04-2007, 10:30 PM
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Re: Biscayne Resto Project
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[ QUOTE ] Most Reproduction parts as sold are basically....."JUNK".....It seems the business's that sell this stuff just don't care.."You're the first one to ever have a problem"....... [/ QUOTE ] Ken, We hear you loud and clear on this one. I have been dealing with this for over 20 years and have worked very closely with some of the manufactures. I constantly ask, why when you are paying a designer to sit at a drafting table making the part while using an NOS original part to draw and measure from do you cut corners. It would have cost you NOTHING more to do it right the first time. Most of the things they scimped on were petty at best and there was absolutely no reason NOT to do it right the first time. I am constantly told the same thing you were, "you are the only one who has complained!" I am not new to manufacturing processes and things like gas tanks, weatherstriping, door handles, carpet, emblems, decals, exhaust hangers, wiring harnesses, inner fenders, etc, etc, would have cost NO more to do them right the first time around. I boggles my mind but only a select few have changed their tooling and gotten better. Rick [/ QUOTE ] Rick........I agree 100%.......I think part of the priblem is that the people who fund the Repro parts are more Sales and Marketing people and "Just" want maximum return on their investment.........I won't mention any names but a "Big" time player in the Market that "Had it all together" years ago ......is now one of the worst and will never see another Nickel from me........... Ken
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04-04-2007, 11:52 PM
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Re: Biscayne Resto Project
Don't get irked at just the reproduction Companies.
GM-Ford-Chrysler today license their name to go onto some parts that are nowhere near what the used to produce in quality & design years ago.Yet buyers see that familiar logo on a parts packaging and immediately assume it's worthy of their car. I'm seeing more & more 30+ yearold rusted hulks being bought today as a whole,just to acquire it's proper fitting/detailed rusted parts for another restoration.
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