Musclecar value question

[Charley Lillard]

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i believe the hemi values are as they are because of 2 individuals -- bill w and dave c -- singlehandedly cornering the market and driving prices up past $1m and more. e.g. 2006 b-j feature ragtop hemi sells for $2m, from dave c to bill w.

it's remarkable but not sustainable.

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How on Earth do you think Dave C had any part of conering the market ? He had 2 Cudas and a Challenger and he bought them before the market went crazy. Don't you think MiltR selling his for 1 mil was a milestone in musclecar history and had a bigger effect than Dave selling his car a couple years later at Barrett-Jackson ?

[sYc]

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.........Don't you think MiltR selling his for 1 mil was a milestone in musclecar history and had a bigger effect than Dave selling his car a couple years later at Barrett-Jackson ?

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No doubt a milestone..

[Denis]

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...Don't you think MiltR selling his for 1 mil was a milestone in musclecar history and had a bigger effect than Dave selling his car a couple years later at Barrett-Jackson ?

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You gotta get up pretty early to put one past Lillard. You're right, Charley, I forgot the dentist car that started it all. Where is that car now?

[442w30]

I believe that was the blue one (there are two) and that one ended up in Scottsdale via OK. Could be wrong . . .

[tom406]

The ZL1 roadster is apparently orange, it looked red in the picture, but anyone who tries to photograph red/orange cars knows how difficult it is to get a true representation.

rich p - your message is a little cryptic, do you mean your client has a contract for first rights to buy if the seller gets the itch, or is your client in the process of purchasing? Not to pry, but you put that out there..

I would have to agree with the supply and demand. While those two guys may be among the more visible, the market was only "cornered" from the standpoint that guys like Kevin S were sitting on their collections, and the low key longtime owners weren't inclined to sell until prices got crazy. Bottom line is more enthusiastic millionaires were in the market than there were cars. Corvettes, for reasons I don't entirely understand, were really late to the party in this last "boom". Musclecars preceded the rise in value of the significant Porsches and Ferraris this time, and one could make the argument that Corvettes (and to a certain extent, Shelby Cobras and '65-67 GT350's/GT500's) really follow that market more. In my experience, many Corvette and Shelby guys are sports car guys trying to convince themselves that Vettes are not really Chevys and GT350's aren't really Fords.

And no, I doubt those guys ever jumped railroad tracks in Roadrunners while blasting "Paranoid" on the 8 track and didn't lose their virginity in the back of a Chevelle to the romanitic tones of "Stairway to Heaven" after seducing their companions with adequate amounts of Pabst Blue Ribbon (or equivalent regional brew).

To be fair, they shot sparks after bottoming out their Austin Healeys on the train tracks, and lost their virginity on a blanket in a park after the Crosby, Stills and Nash concert once the bottle of Boone's Farm was emptied.

But still they drove fast and got laid just the same, so there really is more that brings us together than separates us

[rich p]

I have a contract of sale: Being inspected as we speak !

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I have a contract of sale: Being inspected as we speak !

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[njsteve]

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And no, I doubt those guys ever jumped railroad tracks in Roadrunners while blasting "Paranoid" on the 8 track and didn't lose their virginity in the back of a Chevelle to the romanitic tones of "Stairway to Heaven" after seducing their companions with adequate amounts of Pabst Blue Ribbon (or equivalent regional brew).

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Actually it was a 1970 Plymouth Superbird, by the beach in Milford, CT with the 8-track playing Franki Valli's "Oh, What A Night." Those damn track changes sure got distracting.

[Dave Rifkin]

I think the point of my original post may have gotten lost in some of the responses. While I realize the Corvette was a very expensive car and not many guys got laid in them that was then and this is now. What I was trying to understand was why, in this day of skyrocketing collector car prices, have the Corvettes, L88's, LS6's and other high horsepower models seem to be overlooked. Many of these cars are rarer than the Mopars so for me that knocks out the supply and demand theory. These Corvettes also will outperform many of the Mopars as well. So to my original post; why do you think it is that the Corvette brings less money in the collector car market than some of the musclecars?

[TimG]

Being a Corvette fan and owning a bunch over the years, I think that most folks can't relate to the Corvette from when they grew up.
The "everyday" cars such as Mustang, Camaros, Cudas, Chevelle, all were in the high school parking lots across the country. We sure didn't have Corvettes in our parking lot at school, but all the other cars were there. You take the cars the guys saw while growing up and then dress them out with the ultimate engine and you have prices going through the roof. My red '66 Shelby got more attention than any Corvette because people thought of it as a Mustang, and everyone could relate to a Mustang. Same with any Chevelle or Camaro I've owned.