1969 NOVA SS L-89 ONE OF 311 UNRESTORED ORIGINAL

67L78conv · #1 10-13-2006, 04:07 AM

I have always heard/read it as being 311 Camaros only.

Denis · #2 10-13-2006, 04:43 AM

311 L-89 Camaros is pretty much accepted gospel per the Camaro reference books over at least the past twenty years. Here are actual page scans from four such books:

Big Book of Camaro Data 1967-1973 (1995) - Page 47
by John Hooper:

Camaro (2002) - Page 55
by Steve Statham:

Gm Muscle Cars (2002) - Page 50
by William G Holder, Phillip Kunz:

Camaro - (1995) Page 40
by William Holder, Phillip Kunz, Phil Kurz:

What might explain the L89 Nova confusion is the excerpt below wherein the authors apparently confused Camaro numbers for Nova numbers:

Super Chevy's Nova Handbook: Restoration and Performance for 1963-1967 Chevy Novas (2000) - Page 10
by Super Chevy Magazine Editors:

**Steve Shauger** · #3 10-13-2006, 04:46 AM

The 272# for 1968 and 311# for 1969 was exclusive to the Camaro.

**427king** · #4 10-13-2006, 05:22 AM

Whats odd is that the 69 camaro and nova shared the same engine HP code suffix [JH JJ for example is 375HP for both cars]. Im not aware of any other cars being like that. Probably why some have assumed there were combined production #s ?

JIM · #5 10-13-2006, 10:45 PM

In Ralphs defense, I have known Him personally for years, His Ford and AMC collection is concourse with one of the Finest R-code 69's in the world!!!. The information in printed matter is confusing to those not familar with the Bowtie especially with the 69 L-78 production as it lumps the total units produced. This is also true of the 70 model year for the L-78. I don't know how this car was rep'd to Him. I have never seen this car in person to check it out , I completed the sale of his aquiring a Hemi car last Year and He is straight up , on this matter just misdirected by another one of those supposed experts whose mother's, cousins brothers neighbor had one just like it. This site I beleive is to help those who don't know learn and gain knowledge from those who do. At times I see it as a Belittling to Newbies and Novices which just sours the Hobby, Its Ok to have Fun but there is a line that we shouldn't cross. Jim

**Stefano** · #6 10-13-2006, 10:57 PM

Jim,
You have me confused, which can be easy to do? 1970 Camaro and Nova L78 production is separate?

JIM · #7 10-14-2006, 02:16 AM

The CKO code as well as the CTY code was also used in the Chevelle and Elcamino in 1970. Jim

**Rick H** · #8 10-15-2006, 05:27 PM

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The CKO code as well as the CTY code was also used in the Chevelle and Elcamino in 1970. Jim

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The CKO code was also used on the 1970 L78 Camaro and Nova's as well.

Rick H.

**YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY** · #9 10-13-2006, 11:03 PM

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In Ralphs defense, I have known Him personally for years, His Ford and AMC collection is concourse with one of the Finest R-code 69's in the world!!!. The information in printed matter is confusing to those not familar with the Bowtie especially with the 69 L-78 production as it lumps the total units produced. This is also true of the 70 model year for the L-78. I don't know how this car was rep'd to Him. I have never seen this car in person to check it out , I completed the sale of his aquiring a Hemi car last Year and He is straight up , on this matter just misdirected by another one of those supposed experts whose mother's, cousins brothers neighbor had one just like it. This site I beleive is to help those who don't know learn and gain knowledge from those who do. At times I see it as a Belittling to Newbies and Novices which just sours the Hobby, Its Ok to have Fun but there is a line that we shouldn't cross. Jim

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All it takes is a few pics to answer the questions that have been asked several times. Nobody is judging Ralph's character here, just the claims about the car....

Kim_Howie · #10 10-14-2006, 12:48 AM

Also the 68 nova & camaro

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