1969 NOVA SS L-89 ONE OF 311 UNRESTORED ORIGINAL

**PeteLeathersac** · #1 10-10-2006, 07:45 PM

Wow, I had an easier time over the weekend introducing my new honey to Mom! .

Anyway, very cool car Ralph...it's this one right?

http://www.santiagosc.com/Nova%20SS%20396.htm

The L89 Nova debate has just never been clarified YET, so please stick around w/ the car and don't be too upset at the hungry pack of dogs reaction to the bone you've tossed? .

I see you've indicated previously it's a matching Vin JH suffix motor...so all would indicate shipped as an L78...and obviously the POP won't help. .

Did you ever get w/ the original owner or dealer? . If yes to either/both and no documents to support but there's agreement to the dealer installed thing...get a sworn statement(s) while possible! .
If nothing else ever shows up, this could be the closest things ever get to documenting these? .

For all who care...why when reviewing suffix possibilities for a factory shipped L89 Nova, each L89 suffix notes only Camaro yet when looking at L78 suffixes it notes a shared suffix w/ Camaro, Chevy 2/Novas? .
Maybe this happened when the info was gleaned but it looks this way in what I've read? .

If indeed factory shipped L89 Camaros were available and Nova's had to be finished at the dealer level, you'd think there'd have been a bulletin on this subject? .

And Ralph...nice list is right

~ Pete

Stuart Adams · #2 10-10-2006, 10:31 PM

Alot more mileage out of this one than should have been. Ralph, talks cheap, no disrespect, but what do you expect. Next.

**427king** · #3 10-11-2006, 12:30 AM

I truly commend you guys for showing the restraint that you have thus far.

**PPPJJJFFF** · #4 10-11-2006, 12:59 AM

What the

Patrick

**tom406** · #5 10-11-2006, 06:04 AM

I really do commend everyone who has posted here, Pretty much every response was thoughtful and considerate, particularly for an internet forum where flaming is all too easy.

As for a Ford analogy 427king, try to imagine a post of someone claiming to have a '68 427 Mustang. There's always someone claiming they saw one back then, or their dealer friend had one, and of course they made a few hundred Cougar GT-E's with 427's that year, so they MUST have made Mustangs, etc., but no one has brought one forward with a believable story or supporting docs.

L89 Novas are just the same, they coulda/shoulda been made just like the Camaros, but NOBODY has come up with a survivor. There are documented, no excuses examples of '68 COPO Novas (50 made), Deuces (178 made), even Yenko Novas (less than 10 and at least a couple of the ones remaining have bulletproof histories) out there, but NO L89 Novas. This tells me they were either exceedingly rare, or nonexhistent. Which means anybody claiming to have one better have a load of paperwork, and I'll be checking date codes on every piece of the drivetrain.

You have what sounds like an impressive collection, but that doesn't mean you don't make mistakes, particularly when getting into cars you're unfamiliar with. I would argue that about the time any of us think we've really got our stuff figured out, our arrogance usually undoes us. (That could be a lengthy Lounge topic.)

I apologize if I've crossed into the flaming area here, I really didn't want to, but I had to comment.

TOM

**Charley Lillard** · #6 10-11-2006, 06:13 AM

LOL...Not sure why you are addressing it to 427king....

**tom406** · #7 10-11-2006, 08:52 AM

Apologies to 427king! Too late to edit, damn. I responded off of his posting, and got his "handle" mixed up with 427rcode.

Speaking of which, I see the response has fully devolved from the "it is because I say it is" phase to the "you're too broke to criticize or question me" phase. Hmmm.

For what its worth, all of the responses and points made in this thread would have been the same 5 or 6 years ago when this was a $20K car.

TOM aka tom406
(thats 406gcode to the FoMoCo friendly

**Salvatore** · #8 10-11-2006, 06:16 AM

WOW Tom, You sound like a scholar. I like the way you put it.

I also don't remember NHRA recognizing any 375 horse nova running in Stock Eliminator able to use aluminum heads till recently. (replacement head) The camaro was a different story though. Kim correct me if I am wrong.

Kim_Howie · #9 10-11-2006, 07:11 PM

Al heads on Novas have only been run less than 5 years. Koppien's are the ones using them.

427rcode · #10 10-11-2006, 07:41 PM

hey jim get a life,like i said your a perfect example of some of the people in here trying to bash people,some are knowagble ,some are nasty,im not as smart as you and collect mostly fords.im not in the chevy seen and dont know a whole lot about them.i was told it was a l-89 but i know it probably isnt and its just a l-78 unrestored original thats pretty damm nice. i m sorry for the missunderstanding and sorry if i offended anyone.I WAS NOT TRYING TO MISLEED ANYONE.FOR PEOPLE WHO KNOW ME I WOULD NEVER DO THAT.
SO LETS NOT START ACTING LIKE LITTLE KIDS AND GROW UP.

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