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Old 09-20-2006, 06:42 PM
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Charley,
It may be possible that NHRA received a list of the first 50 cars built in order to meet NHRA's qualification that a minimum number of 50 were actualy produced. That made the cars class legal. I don't see any reason why NHRA would need to know about any more after #50 though, since the minimum number had already been met.

A similar situation occured for the '63 Z-11. Just before the Winternationals, NHRA was given a list of the first 40 Z-11s built (that's all that were built by then). That wasn't enough to satisfy NHRA and Hayden Profitt's new Z-11 was put in a "Limited Super Stock" class.

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Old 09-20-2006, 08:06 PM
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Verne, I don't know how NHRA did it but when Fred Gibb had the 50 Nova's for AHRA they sent a letter to tech stating all 50 cars were delivered to his dealership. No VIN # s were sent to AHRA.
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Old 09-20-2006, 08:08 PM
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I have heard 6 or 7 cars still have there org. motor.
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Old 09-20-2006, 08:15 PM
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Kim,
That's just the way it was for NHRA. The list of 40 Z-11s that went to NHRA didn't have any VINs either. Just the name and address of each dealer that received one. I guess as far as Chevy was concerned, once it went to a dealer, it was sold!

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Old 09-20-2006, 08:25 PM
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Same here Verne. It's nice to put a face to name.
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Old 09-20-2006, 09:33 PM
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Default Re: ZL 1 #69

We have letters to/from Yenko Chevrolet & the NHRA, and it was VIN#, selling dealer, and original owner's name/address...the last part got fudged some, 'cause there are several salesmen's names, dealership owner's wives, etc...if the car wasn't sold but was in the pipeline, then they put down whomever came to mind!

This worked for the '69 cars, but for some reason NHRA never let the Deuces in...even today they're left out in the cold...
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Old 09-21-2006, 02:04 AM
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Personally I think GRB needs to get his facts straight. Idiot. Only two cars were given to prominent GM racers....Lamar Walden and Dick Harrell. Of the 34-37 cars GM took back from Gibbs most were used (maybe, I am sure of nothing!) to force dealers to take them to get the more difficult to get corvettes. <--- I would take that statement with a grain of salt unless you hear someone you trust say it!

Chrysler complained about the ZL1 not having sold the min. number. Both factory backed cars evidently dropped a valve and destroyed the engines before they could make their first pass. Lamar's happened as he was doing a burn out. Vince Piggins sent him a "care package" of 5 engines, 2 fiberglass fenders with GM numbers stamped on them and a disc brake rear end strapped to a pallet. Lamar did not use his. Not sure what he did with the fenders.

The crate (?) engines were taken apart and rebuilt, especially replaced were the valves. These two cars spent most of their lives involved in exhibition and match races.

All of the above is subject to correction.
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Old 09-21-2006, 02:20 AM
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<font color="red"> Only two cars were given to prominent GM racers....Lamar Walden and Dick Harrell. </font>


The ZL-1 Camaro (#1) Dick Harrell drove was not given to him by Chevrolet, but was owned by Fred Gibb Chevrolet.
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Old 09-21-2006, 03:00 AM
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Like I said, all of the above is subject to correction. However, Lamar did tell me this afternoon that only two of the ZL1s were given to racers. He may have said DH got a care pkg. too....not sure of anything anymore.
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