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Old 09-27-2006, 02:22 AM
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Wasn't there also a supposed 442 wagon ???
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Old 09-27-2006, 04:09 PM
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GTO 14" Honeycombs came with trim rings with Judge option or not.
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Old 09-28-2006, 05:15 AM
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The wagon is Now in Maui Hawaii, livin the good life. Doc's show it was a 350 from the factory but sold to PMDF, not a dealer.
Explain to me why Dan Jensen would do that to a Le Mans wagon in the 80's, they were worth nothing then. I would think he and Scott would have bigger fish to fry.
Either way it was a cool car to own, and the gentleman who owns it now is happy.
I was GM dealer in the 70's, Pontiac. Our Factory rep had a Blue Wagon ala GTO style. It also was cool.
Well, This thread is about the Judge Ragtop, it took "Best Open Muscle Car" at the Fairfield County Concours this past Sunday in Westport CT.
My 70 Torino GT 429, Took "Best Closed Muscle Car." It was a nice show.
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Old 09-28-2006, 05:19 AM
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Oh, by the way,
The GTO Wagon, has Ram Air Pans. No one yanked them. Full Ram Air setup.
Ran like a Bear.
Still makes No Sense to me why anyone, and especially someone Like Dan Jensen would do that to a wagon.
But then again, If you are going to own a car like that who would you want it built by???? Dan and Scott or some Yahoo.
I'll take Dan and Scott.
I owned it, Drove it, and Sold it. It was a Way Fun Car.
Wish I could have fit in the 3rd seat.
at least My Kids enjoyed that.
"Burn Rubber Dad!" ----Yessir.
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Old 12-03-2006, 10:39 AM
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Wasn't there also a supposed 442 wagon ???

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Back in the 80's when i had my 71 LeMans sport conv, I needed a quarter panel and hooked up with the then president of I believe POCI? May have been another Pontiac club. I think his name was Dave Doren?? anyway he hooked me up with NOS GM quarters from Butler classic auto for a hardtop that i had modified for my convertible. But the thing I really remember was going back to a warehouse in Skokie after i met him at a Pontiac show and seeing some of his iron. He had relationships with people at pontiac but i was not as in tune back then (20) so i can't remember all the details.
THIS i do remember. Among his stuff, he had two very diferent cars there.
1 was a black 85 trans am with a 5 speed .......... and a leftover brand new 73 SD455 complete with emission stickers shoe horned in that sucker and hooked up to the five speed like it was done at the factory. He told me of some ridiculous highway performance in top speed. Wow I can only imagine the performance of that motor in a light, better handling and better (ie more gears!) geared car.

2. Was a car that he said had belonged to either the head or one of the top honchos for Pontiac. I believe the car was for his wife.
A complete factory 442 station wagon!!!!!!!! Badges, motor and design cues strait from the 442 including the hood. Very cool.

Anyway, just a something i will never forget.

John
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Old 12-03-2006, 07:36 PM
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John,,, Used to see that Trans-Am at shows around the Chicago area on occasion when we lived in Hinsdale in the 80s........Bill S
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http://www.texas442.com/wagon/wgn-71ho.html

several, according to this site. WOW !!

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Wasn't there also a supposed 442 wagon ???

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http://www.texas442.com/wagon/wgn-71ho.html

several, according to this site. WOW !!

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dont believe everything you read about those wagons..i never saw one documented
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The Only Olds wagon I saw, and it was documented was the INDY 500 Medical Wagon, it was at the Indianapolis Concours next to our Rebel Machine.
It had all the 442 Goodies, but was a regular Vista Cruiser. Cool just the same.
I have the 70 Chevy Townsman Wagon, Factory LS-5, Plain Jane radio delete. I have the original buildsheet.
http://kuhnsklassics.freeservers.com/photo3_1.html
ie: the Dragin Wagon
with regards to my 72 Goat wagon,
The 72 GTO Wagon was sold many years ago and is living the good life in Maui Hawaii. I handled all the shipping arrangements as well.
It has it's buildsheet as well. It was a Sundance Orange 350 with the Endura Nose, it was shipped from Framingham Mass to PMD, in Michigan. PMD listed as the owner/purchaser.
No Dealer. The 455HO that was in it when I had it and still in it was a correct date coded motor with a Factory replacement block number. When it was converted or what is anyones guess.
If in Maui, you might see it cruisin the island......
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I'm pretty sure Dan Jensen could fill in the Blanks.
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