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03-26-2006, 06:18 PM
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Re: CoPo? on Ebay?
I notice that the car is getting more responce Positive that it's real , But i need a better answer if i'm going to bid , at that kind of money just for a 69 shell if it does not pan out . I'll die
 
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03-26-2006, 06:53 PM
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Re: CoPo? on Ebay?
Whats with the manual drum brakes..racer thing someone changed?? Seems to be real but no real concrete proof, Id like to see one real piece of paper..a rear stamping..something.
ALbert
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1969 9566AA COPO Chevelle M-22 1969 Malibu 489 ZL-1 T-56/4.56 1969 Beaumont 540 th400 3.70 1969 Chevelle 300 Deluxe 427 ZL-1 M 22W 1970 Olds 442 W 30 2 door post 1969 Ply. GTX 426 hemi auto. Blue. 1940 Dodge pick up Durango 4X4 1968 Camaro ragtop LSA ZL1
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03-26-2006, 07:19 PM
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Re: CoPo? on Ebay?
Funny how the brake pedal rubber does not have the disk brake emblem.........
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03-26-2006, 08:39 PM
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Re: CoPo? on Ebay?
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Funny how the brake pedal rubber does not have the disk brake emblem......... [/ QUOTE ] Look at the picture of the inside of the trunk, whats just above the air cleaner?  Car wasn't always an automatic car. Does that set of pedals have a disc brake emblem on them, I can't quite see if it's there, but I'm pretty confident that it is a COPO car.
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03-26-2006, 08:47 PM
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Re: CoPo? on Ebay?
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[ QUOTE ] Funny how the brake pedal rubber does not have the disk brake emblem......... [/ QUOTE ] Look at the picture of the inside of the trunk, whats just above the air cleaner? Car wasn't always an automatic car. Does that set of pedals have a disc brake emblem on them, I can't quite see if it's there, but I'm pretty confident that it is a COPO car. [/ QUOTE ] Those pedals don't appear to have the rubber covers on them anymore.
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03-26-2006, 09:34 PM
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Re: CoPo? on Ebay?
"Car wasn't always an automatic car. Does that set of pedals have a disc brake emblem on them, I can't quite see if it's there, but I'm pretty confident that it is a COPO car."
How can you be so confident? Explain the front drum brakes?
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#28
03-26-2006, 10:22 PM
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Re: CoPo? on Ebay?
I have a friend that was a old time stock and superstock racer, He said it was a very common practice to remove the power disc brakes on race cars. The drum brake set up could be lossened up to create less drag.... less drag lower ET more MPH.
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#29
03-26-2006, 10:30 PM
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Re: CoPo? on Ebay?
So what? Most guys who go from stick to auto, dont remove the entire assembly. Most of the time, they just leave the clutch pedal dangling there. Even if they wanted to remove the clutch pedal, they would just unclip the pin and remove it from the pedal assembly. They sure as heck wouldn't go out and find another assembly and then save the old one.
Has the ad been updated? Just wondering because if I were selling an original COPO, I would at least let potential buyers know if it had the BE in it and what the VIN and Date stamp on the 512 block is. He says he has another 12 bolt from the old lady and thinks it 'might' be a BE rear. All he is saying is that it is a COPO car with no proof other than "this guy and that guy remembers the car as a 427 car". That would not be good enough for me. I don't know if you guys ever hung out with racers but when they take a piece of a car, it was usually for sale because they always want money for something else they need. Few guys even realized what a BE rear-end was 20 years ago. Back then, a 12 bolt out of a Camaro was a 12 bolt out of a Camaro. This seller seems to have his facts with respect to COPO part numbers yet he is not willing to take the extra step to confirm the numbers and post pics? As someone else said, the heater box has been off before and there is absolutely nothing in his ad to prove to me that the car was not an original SS350 car with a ZL2 option. Common guys!
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03-26-2006, 10:51 PM
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Re: CoPo? on Ebay?
You see a shifter quadrant in the dash, or a shifter arm on the column? Theres no cutouts in the rug for mounting a console (although I don't know if the slightly darker area on top of the tunnel next to the loose head is where the 4spd shifter hole was patched, or just a dark spot on the rug). The master cylinder is a US master cyl with bleeders, not what you would have if the car was originally a drum brake car and not what you would get as a service or replacement part(they didn't have bleeders). The brake system has been altered quite a bit. I'd need to see the brackets on the drivers side to be able to prove the car came with discs originally. In either case the reason I think it's a COPO has nothing to do with wether it was a 4spd of auto, or has drum brakes now. Theres other info in the auction that indicates it is what the seller says it is. Is if worth much more than the 30K its at right now without the original driveline, who knows.
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