COPO Olds

[Norm reynolds]

The blue one is the real deal It was over a year ago I do not have the vin but saw all the paper work built sheet
and window sticker all # matching I thought the same thing at frist that some one built it but after looking it over real good I do belive it came from the factory like this
I have talked to a few olds people that realy know more that me about olds about it I know the owner and when I told them about the w-30 blue wagon his name came up and was told that it is a known real car

[w302nv]

Norm,
Not to be a pain in the arse here and I mean no disrespect (and I am pretty sure that I am beating a dead horse), but there are a number of things on it that scream clone. After looking at literally 100's of W-30 clones, this has a few hallmarks if you will, of a run of the mill clone...the most glaring, are the crappy repo red inner fenders and repo hood, the PCV is not W30 equipment, and the air cleaner base does not appear to be an original OAI unit.

Andy mentioned the 2 possible 70 cars, and I can buy that, because one of the cars was probably featured in the article I quoted. The car was a Cutlass wagon with the W25 OAI (Olds calls ram air Outside Air Induction) hood, NO 4-4-2 or W-30 badging.

A few other things, if this is represented as a 71, I strongly doubt that Olds would have stuck 4-4-2 badging on it. In 1971 the 4-4-2 had its own VIN designation...Thats like badging a Cutlass as a 4-4-2. If it was represented as a 72, it should not have the red inner fender wells. I could go on and on, but I think I have made my point...I've said my peace, and I promise to shut up...

[442w30]

Great deductive reasoning!

[StealthBird]

So if this was born as a Cutlass wagon with an OAI hood, would this be like the 1971 Pontiac T41 optioned (GTO hood and Endura nose) Lemans wagons?

Still a cool looking W-30 wagon, but the history is questionable.

The acronym for 442 still fits though.

4-real?
4-door
2-hard to believe

[442w30]

I see the Lemans wagon as an ornamentation package, while the Cutlass wagon would be more performance-oriented because of the ram air system. I see them as two different things.

[w302nv]

All right I'll just comment one last time ...I agree with 442w30...my 71 Lemans Sport had the T41 option...the hood on it was RA, but there was no pan, just a regular old air cleaner..all cosmetic...Olds didn't offer just the W25 hood...as far as I know, it always was functional OAI with the OAI air cleaner....and I cant even say for sure if it was even offered on anything but the "A" bodies....this is like the W35 option on convertibles..it wasn't available, but there are a number of people who swear it was, and their car came that way...not sure if you were joking, but 64 was the only year a 4 door 4-4-2 was available otherwise its..

4-4bbl Carb
4-4spd trans (or 400/455 ci depending on year)
2-Dual Exhaust

so yes, it **could** just be a Cutlass wagon with OAI...

no more....really...I promise

[Xplantdad]

Good stuff Josh!