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One night we took the car to the Cadet down at Kittanning. After we had everyone's attention by driving through a few times, I got behind the wheel and took it through the parking lot. At the end of the lot where it was dark we did a quick driver swap and Earl burned it out of the lot and slapped it through the gears out on 422. Then we switched back and I drove it back through the parking lot so everyone thought I was the one horsing it. We had a lot of fun that night. [/ QUOTE ] That's absolutely priceless!! ![]() ![]() |
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Man, I would love to own this Deuce just because of the storys!
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Linda, Earl,
Speaking of more stories ....would you please tell us the story of the missing stripes? ![]()
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Bill, I don't think this version of the traction bars has the J-Hooks, just a mount below the spring plate. These bars are very unique, especially in the snubber area. They are not something you would find on a track car, but probably handled the wheel hop problem Linda was describing. We've all had the wheel hop issue at one time or another, sounds like the rear is going to flop out of the car
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As a Classic Car appraiser, my advice to you would be to thoroughly clean the vehicle and consign it to a high line auction within the next 6-9 months. The rare investment, numbers matching classic market operates on somewhat of a pyramid method. It begins at a broad base, with vehicles priced low and everyone buying, and (like a pyramid) as the prices rise, the buying pool shrinks. There have been two other “equalizations” in classic car history, and I believe the third one is inevitable. The first were the pre and post war cars, that were skyrocketing in the late seventies and early eighties. With the introduction of the muscle cars, that market dropped and never did recover.
The second was in the late eighties, when muscle car prices went through the roof. The equalization that occurred decimated the market, and it took several years to recover. I still remember the gentleman that bought the Fathom Blue LS6 convertible from a classic dealer for $150,000 in the late eighties. A few years later, he had no takers at $90,000. It took several years for him to finally recoup his money. A rule of thumb- when the investment vehicle market prices the product out of the hands of Joe Public and into the hands of only a small group of collectors, the equalization occurs. This is due to the fact that after the small group is done swapping and acquiring vehicles, there is no one left with the financial means to buy them. I believe we are approaching another equalization. The problem is, you have no advance warning- it just happens. The collectors that purchased at the lower end of the pyramid and sold at the high end are winners. Those who purchased at the top of the pyramid are going to suffer some, the degree of suffering being unknown. Those financially secure enough to sit on their cars can always weather the market fluctuation. When you hear comments that some cars sold for “stupid money”, that is a clue. The two partners that formed B/J were honorable and reputable men- you could always view these auction results as an indicator of the market-no more. The circus atmosphere and grandstanding has nullified B/J as an indicator of anything. If you want top dollar for your vehicle, I’d sell it in the near future. |
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People paying high prices for these cars are buying them because they want them...B/J is only an outlet for that. Circus and all. Prices don't equate to what happens there. Very low production and rare muscle is always going to be expensive until guys my age retire and move to Florida. That won't be for a while ! Middle of the road cars is where people are paying too much...by people trying to tap in on the B/J hype.
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People paying high prices for these cars are buying them because they want them...B/J is only an outlet for that. Circus and all. Prices don't equate to what happens there. Very low production and rare muscle is always going to be expensive until guys my age retire and move to Florida. That won't be for a while ! Middle of the road cars is where people are paying too much...by people trying to tap in on the B/J hype. [/ QUOTE ] I see more people around here interested in muscle or be it a early car with mags and some other touches of any sort..due to ?? who knows...but they are grabbing up middle of the road drivers fast and playing with them...then the old supply and demand thing kicks in..if its fairly clean with minimal rust they sell fast...and it looks like that trend online as well... ![]() I have non car people that know I love cars mention BJ more and more in conversations at kid functions etc...the money has gotten a lot of people excited one way or another..or at least asking whats going on...and maybe that old heap there husband has buried in the garage since they were married may be something after all... ![]() |
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People paying high prices for these cars are buying them because they want them...B/J is only an outlet for that. Circus and all. Prices don't equate to what happens there. Very low production and rare muscle is always going to be expensive until guys my age retire and move to Florida. That won't be for a while ! Middle of the road cars is where people are paying too much...by people trying to tap in on the B/J hype. [/ QUOTE ] Exactamundo! |
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I agree with ya Bob. The expensive rare cars are dragging up the prices of the average stuff, those cars will take the hit first, if ever IMO.
Prices of EVERYTHING is wild. A patient just bought a second house on the beach in Southern California for 2 mill, bulldozed the old house, and is rebuilding a new house on the lot!!! Just like the nice rare cars, they aint making beaches anymore!! People will pay top dollar for the GOOD stuff, IMO. ![]() |
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