1970 Yenko Deuce

[hvychev]

To bad you have to sell it. Original owner cars are special IMO.

Would be cool if you restored it and brought it to a Supercar Reunion!

[71SSNova]

If it were mine and I wanted to sell it for the most money, I'd take it for Barrett-Jackson next year!!

[Rick H]

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Rick, as for original paint I have friends who orderd these cars new and had the dealer repaint them even before they took delivery. It's all a matter of what the owner wanted at the time. NOBODY back then was thinking that thier decisions were going to be questioned like it's part of the Spanish Inquisition.

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I understand that but instead of speculation I would like to have the original owners state why it's not original paint. 18,000 original mile car with original owner, docs and such but not original paint raises a flag for me.

I keep reading some posts here where some keep saying original condition and to me if the car is not original paint then its NOT original condition.

I think it's a legit question for what they are claiming and asking.

Rick H.

[Z-11 396]

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I love this car, but if it was mine, I would take the money.

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[farone]

Yeh, right...Take it to Barrett Jackson for the horse and pony show.... Be prepared to sell it at no reserve, or buy it back and pay both buyers and sellers fees, plus the cost of getting it there and ond all of the other associated costs involved. That makes alot of sence to me.... The car has had no attention for years, and needs alot of it now, let alone it is painted the wrong color. It is by no means a survivor IMO. You had probably the best buyer handed to you, but you thought that there was some gravy left on the plate. Alot of these buyers do not want the public to know their business, as to how much they are paying for these cars. We are on a real big upswing with muscle car prices right now, but it could turn around tomorrow. So maybe you should forget about the car for another 20 years and it might be worth more, but it might come crashing down. You have caused alot of bad feelings among socalled friends, I'm sure more than you know. Just my $.02.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

The non-original paint is completely irrelevant If you knew how many deuces, (not to mention non-supercars) were repainted because the owners felt like it - you would be shocked. My deuce was repainted in '71 or '72 - does that make it a conspiracy? 'Cmon, you are fishin.

(BTW, the story we (Brian & I) got regarding the repaint, was that it was repainted the color of Earl's niece's eyes. If that ain't sweet, I don't know what is. I think that story was news to Earl when we told him, but.... I thought it added some personal history to the car.)

As far as value.... who knows. Of course the $100k+ offers were very high - higher than any restored car has ever brought, much less a project car. But remember, the deuce world is different in several respects. (Don't flame me, this is an educated opinion - educated from knowing what every deuce has sold for in the past 10 years )

First, the deuce novas do not sell nearly as frequently as the y-camaros, or y-chevelles for that matter. So, when a deuce 'is' sold, it is not unusual to see large price disparities between sales events - whether it's a project or a restored car.

Second, the deuce novas do not have a non-yenko copo 'following' like the camaros and the chevelles to 'track' the values; ie; each time a yenko camaro is sold, everyone does a wallet check, and when a non-yenko copo camaro is sold for the same value or more than the last yenko camaro - the yenko camaro owners perform another unrealized gain calculation. The deuce novas don't have another 200+ non-yenko copo fleet in circulation to guage selling prices from, so each sale is a stand alone event without anything else to show progression.

Third, the market has changed. 4-5 years ago the primary deuce buyer was a guy who wanted a deuce, or two, or three. Today, the market includes an increasing subset of buyers who are completing collections, and have decided to include a deuce. This subset is capable & willing to pay more than the buyers of 1 year, 3 years & especially 5+ years ago.

FWIW & IMHO, the current deuce value for a car restored to high standards, with original drivetrain, and excellent paperwork is $150k. I think the offers made on this car were unreprecedentd & extremely good for the sellers, and the offers were within reason for the potential buyers to get the car restored - hold it and enjoy it for a few years - and still not get upside down in the event it needs to be moved. So, if the sellers were 'testing the waters', I believe they found the sweet spot faster than they thought. However, as we all know, this could all change tomorrow

[PPPJJJFFF]

Nice car! And since everyones giving their .02 cents. Here's mine. No reason not to test the market here on this board. I would say most feel 100K or more is a handful of cash for that car. So do I.

No disrepect, but unless I saw the cash change hands. Who really knows what it sells for!

[Zedder]

Good points Marlin and you are correct that cars like this are very difficult to put a value on because of the fact that so few are sold. I'm sort of in the same position with '67 Z's and have watched their selling prices very, very closely for the past 8 years. A year ago, I could confidently give someone an expected selling price on their car and be pretty darn close to what it would bring. However, all that has changed in the past year as more and more people are paying unprecedented prices for what they want. The '67 Z that is mentioned earlier in this thread is a really nice car that I would have said would bring maybe $90K - $100K last year due to the paperwork and one-owner status etc. The current owner is the cousin of the original owner and he wants $150K for it firm. Given how crazy the market is right now, it wouldn't surprise me if he gets it! When will it end??? I don't think anytime soon.

[BUIZILLA]

Okay, I have one more stupid question...

what makes this UNRESTORED, PAINTED, MODIFIED ENGINE car worth 50k more than Stefano's L78 ?? I swear, I must be in the dark ages... 2 Yenko decals, some glue on door trim and a LOT of dirt add's 80k to the value of a documented, and fully restored or original, mint condition SS350 or L34 4 speed car?

Jim

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

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