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[Canucklehead]

Still would like to know why their saying its a BALDWIN motion, how does the baldwin fit in there. I think the interior look crappy.

[Belair62]

Because they can !

[MOTION1]

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Still would like to know why their saying its a BALDWIN motion, how does the baldwin fit in there. I think the interior look crappy.

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You know, I had a talk with Joel about this very fact recently and this is how he defined what a true "Baldwin Motion" car was. Please read, this is the actual email dialog I had with him. As I have maintained (because he explained it this way to me before), the cars didn't necessarily have to be sold by Baldwin Chevrolet. They could have come from elsewhere as long as Motion Performance did the mods and sold the car.


Dan, I don't read it that way. I consider your car a BM
Joel Rosen Pres.
Motion Models Inc.
2141 N. University Drive #359
Coral Springs, Fl, 33071-6134
1-800-866-3172 US
1-954-344-8512 International
1-954-344-8870 Fax
www.motionmodels.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan McMichael" <[email protected]>
To: "Mr. Motion"
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: Baldwin-Motion


> Joel,
>
> Thanks for taking the time to do this.
>
> I know that you must get sick of trying to cipher through all this with different people, however by your interpretation my '73 Camaro would not be a "Baldwin Motion" car. The other day you indicated that you would
consider it to be?? That car, if you remember, was originally sold by Park Chevrolet.
>
> Thanks again for taking time on this. It was great to talk to you again
> the
> other night.
>
> Dan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mr. Motion"
> To: "DAN McMICHAEL" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 3:12 PM
> Subject: Fw: Baldwin-Motion
>
>
>>
>> Subject: Baldwin-Motion

Dan, In my opinion, a BALDWIN MOTION CAR is a car sold by Baldwin Chevrolet/Motion Performance (or Baldwin Chevrolet's successors) during the period of 1967-1974. We also had several rare occasions where people traded or sold back a few Baldwin Motion cars to us and they were resold which I think would still fall in that category.

Motion cars (again my opinion) are those which were built by Motion Performance Inc. for resale or worked on for customers from all over the world from 1966 until the closing of our service department in the late '90's.
Hopefully this will give you the definition you are looking for.
>> > Joel
>> > Motion Models Inc.
>> > 2141 N. University Drive #359
>> > Coral Springs, Fl, 33071-6134
>> > 1-800-866-3172 US
>> > 1-954-344-8512 International
>> >1-954-344-8870 Fax
>> > www.motionmodels.com

[COPO]

I would say most collectors feel if a car was not sold through or delivered originally to Baldwin Chevrolet then it would be a Motion car. A new car sold though Baldwin as a Motion modfied car commands a premium versus a car modified by Motion only. I don't understand the logic of something being called a BM car is it never had any relation with Baldwin Chevrolet. I understand why they would want to call the new ones BM cars, but that in my opinion is to add value eventhough Baldwin is not involved. Baldwin Motion or Motion only, they are all great cars and highly desirable.

[Belair62]

Probably because the majority of car guys have always referred to these as Baldwin Motion cars...the folks who are really into Supercars know the difference but most people just remember the old magazine ads !!

[oboym]

MOTION PERFORMANCE 598 Sunrise Highway/ <font color="red"> </font> BALDWIN <font color="black"> </font> L.I.,N.Y.

Motion baldwin

[MOTION1]

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I don't understand the logic of something being called a BM car is it never had any relation with Baldwin Chevrolet.

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Joel's answer to this question was "It really had nothing to do with the dealership, it is because we lived in Baldwin"

Whatever you guys think is OK with me. I still think my non-Baldwin Chevrolet cars are worth just as much as my Baldwin Chevrolet cars.

Dan

[JoeG]

I'm guessing Motion started using Chevrolet dealers along with Baldwin Chevrolet sometime in the 70's----Dan was your car (are you talking about the Camaro??) ordered thru Motion or ordered thru Parks Chevrolet ------- that would be ---I saw your '74 PhaseIII at the Motion shop in the late'90s along with the Maco--both very very ---

[MOTION1]

Hey Joe,

Where are ya goin' with that gun in your hand? (sorry)

Yes my Camaro was sold to Motion by Park Chevrolet. You can see by Joel's email that he considers this a "Baldwin Motion" car, and as I said, I would not part with this car for anything less than the right amount.

Dan

[JoeG]

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Hey Joe,

Where are ya goin' with that gun in your hand? (sorry)



???????....It was just a question how the transaction worked..... Enjoy your " Baldwin Motion" cars...........