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Hi Tom,
Actually, My Wife is an authority on AMC Rebel Machines. She became such since she was virtually ignored at Car Shows, even though she does all her own Mechanical work and Detailing. Rebel number 1 has been hers for many years and she has written several articles about Rebl Machines. Her car has taken "Best Muscle Car" at the Greenwich Concours D'Elegance, Another Best Muscle at Bridgehamptons Concours, and too many others including a showing at Meadowbrook in 04. She knows her way around a lot of other cars as well. On the production numbers, There were a total of 1936 Rebel Machines built in 1970, 596 in any of the avialable AMC colors, 14 or 17 depending upon which brochure or dealer book you use. Leaving 1340 Red White and Blue cars. When have been privy to the Actual Factory documents for production through a friend who bought all the AMC records when Chrysler bought them out. They were going to trash it all. My friend has since sold off the Rambler records but hung onto the Javelin, AMX and Machine records. The National American Motors Drivers and owners association also publishes these numbers as actual. We have been fortunate enough to meet and befriend a gentleman who worked with Dick Teague in AMC styling through all those years and he verified my friends Factory Documents as the real thing. There are Only 8 Known Matador Red Rebel Machines, and ours are the only two who are complete and in show condition. Rebel 1 has been in Collectible Automobile, as well as Hemmings Muscle Machines and a Calendar car for Hemmings Muscle Car Calendar. Rebel 2, was hidden away till we got it. By the by, My Wifes Rebel has been photographed and engineering drawings done for a 1:18th Die Cast coming out in Sept 06. It will be a Yat Ming Signature Series car. The first Big Die Cast of a Rebel Machine ever. I have attached a Photo of her 390-4 barrel, Her handiwork detailing shows. The engine compartment itself is the Original Factory Paint. Hinges were refinished as was Block and ancillaries. She does All Our Detailing.
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<font color="red">Dragin Wagon</font> 1970 LS-5 Townsman Station Wagon |
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WOW ! If you still had the Offy Cross Ram, I know of someone who is looking for that. AMC Cross Rams are not very plentiful.
Drop a Cross Ram and Dual 4's on a 390 or 401 and WOW ! Could they move, they are virtualy the same motor. Even with the stock 4 barrel they go, They were nicknamed "The Flying Brick". As a Matter of Fact the 304, 360, 390 and 401 were all the same basic block. A little diff in Bore or Stroke and Voila. Because the Machines had more space and could utilize a few special parts that were Machine only, they had the highest horsepower.
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<font color="red">Dragin Wagon</font> 1970 LS-5 Townsman Station Wagon |
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WOW ! If you still had the Offy Cross Ram, I know of someone who is looking for that. AMC Cross Rams are not very plentiful. Drop a Cross Ram and Dual 4's on a 390 or 401 and WOW ! Could they move, they are virtualy the same motor. Even with the stock 4 barrel they go, They were nicknamed "The Flying Brick". As a Matter of Fact the 304, 360, 390 and 401 were all the same basic block. A little diff in Bore or Stroke and Voila. Because the Machines had more space and could utilize a few special parts that were Machine only, they had the highest horsepower. [/ QUOTE ] Jeez, just what I wanted to hear!!! j/k ![]() I wish I still had the car. 40k, 2 owner, bone stock..Thats why I didn't want the manifold as I remember. Mine was a '69 so it had the flat hood with the fins in the front. (Not a good description but I'm sure you know what I mean.).Anyway, I loved that hood and didn't want to mess with it. Plus all I got was the manifold..no carbs,linkage,etc. Seemed like a good idea to get those wheels for "free" at the time..LOL! Awesome cars you have, btw!
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Tom <font color="#00FF00">1970 Z/28</font> |
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a # that also floats around on the SC/Hornets is 667. also, the first 100 Donohue's were in the famed Red/White/Blue.
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Founder of Lost Muscle Cars Discovered; 1968 Dick Harrell L88 Super Chevelle, 1969 Ford Boss Bronco, 1969 KK1201 Boss 429 Prototype, 1964 Savoy 426 Max Wedge (steel nose), 1969 Nova L78 Yenko Sold |
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I know, we all have our would have and could haves. Some of the cars and stuff I should have saved. I'm trying to make up for it now.
On Hornet S/C 360, Eddie Stakes of Planet Houston is the authority. He runs the registry and a website. Overall there were a lot less AMC muscle cars than people think. And a few Sleepers. Like the Alabama State Polices Javelin AMX's from the 70's and Los Angeles Matador Sedans with the Police Package 401's. Those were some cool cars.
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<font color="red">Dragin Wagon</font> 1970 LS-5 Townsman Station Wagon |
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The Biggest ticket AMC right now is the Super Stock AMX, there were only about 50 ever built. Red White and Blue. Cross Ram Dual 4's. Fast cars.
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<font color="red">Dragin Wagon</font> 1970 LS-5 Townsman Station Wagon |
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One of our Members ,Sixtiesmuscle owned one of those SS cars a while back ! Pretty cool piece...Kenosha Kadillacs !!!
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![]() Marlin; The Mark Donohue edition trans am Javelins are not the same as the TransAm Javelins, these red/white/blue cars came with 390cid engines and used an adjustable rear wing instead of a spoiler( '68, '69 Javelins campaigned in SCCA's TransAmerica sedan class racing used these). The Mark Donohue trans am edition used both 390 and 360 cid engines. However the 360 cid block was special and different in internal construction for use to destroke down to 305 ci limit for racing. Mark Donohue Javelins were built later during the 1970 model year and only this special design block tells you it's a Donohue edition, but if a Donohue Javelin was ordered with a 390 cid, it can't be destinguished from any other Go Pak optioned Javelin that has had a spoiler added.
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You hit that on the head,
I recently put together a deal helping out a couple friends, one who needed to sell, and a buyer friend who I knew would apreciate the cars. It was a 3 car deal, A SS /AMX, a Trans Am Javelin, both with race history, and a Big Bad Green AMX. He's restoring the Super Stock now, sold the Big Bad car to another friend, and the Trans Am Javelin is in the hands of a very good collector who is going to Vintage Race it and then treat it to a full frame off. He showed the Trans Am Javelin at the Fairfield County Concours this past year and I belive a Photo is on thier website.
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<font color="red">Dragin Wagon</font> 1970 LS-5 Townsman Station Wagon |
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Hi,
Rebel number one has been invited to be shown at several Concours Events this year, including Hilton Head in November. We have advertised the Pair for $85,000. in an upcoming issue of "Hemmings Motor News". I can safely say no where on Earth will you find two (2) Factory Built, Matador Red, Rebel Machines together. Especially in the Complete and Correct condition of these cars, complete also with a library full of information as well as vehicle documents. If someone wants unique, this is it. There were Only 596 Rebel Machines ever built in Factory Solid Colors, Non Red White and Blue Cars, with 17 available colors, how many were Red ? There are 9 known on the registry. 2 of them are these cars. Thanks for looking.
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<font color="red">Dragin Wagon</font> 1970 LS-5 Townsman Station Wagon |