Needing reassurance on purchase

[69HURST]

CHARLIE, DID YOU READ THE LINE THAT SAID ?

"IT WILL BE UP TO THE BUYER TO EVALUATE AND DECIDE IF THIS CAR IS AS AUTHENTIC AS WE THINK IT IS"... ALSO WERE YOU IN THE NORWOOD PLANT IN MAY OF 1970? I DIDNT THINK SO,,, I PUT UP GREAT PICS OF THE TRIM TAG AND BLOCK STAMP, NOT TO MENTION A PIC OF THE TRANS, THE TRANS HAS THE VIN AND DATE OF 5/06, THE ENGINE STAMP HAS 5/09, CHARLIE YOU CANT DETERMINE WHEN THE VIN WAS STAMPED ON THIS PAD, I BELIEVE THE ENGINE WAS BORN IN THIS CAR. THAT IS MY OPINION, I ALSO WASNT IN NORWOOD IN 1970. I MADE IT CLEAR THAT A PROSPECTIVE BUY WILL HAVE TO DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES. I LIKE HOW YOU DETERMINE THAT I OWE A REFUND. ALL $'S ARE BETWEEN GORD AND I, NOT YENKO.COM AND I. KNOWONE PUT A GUN TO THIS GUYS HEAD, HE CALLED US AND MADE A GOOD OFFER. HE HAD 7 DAYS OF AUCTION TO HIRE AN INSPECTION COMPANY OR FIND SOMEONE OR FLY IN TO BOSTON HIMSELF. HE DESIDED TO FORWARD A DEPOSIT AND HAVE ME END THE AUCTION EARLY. SM



CHARLIE, DID YOU READ THE LINE THAT SAID ?

[69HURST]

BUY THE WAY CHARLY, HOWS YOUR RESTAMPED L89?

[Charley Lillard]

Still restamped and I got about the same lame answer you gave. Do us all a favor and press the CAPS LOCK button on your keyboard.

[69HURST]

IM SURE YOU INSPECTED A CAR THAT MAGNITUDE PRIOR TO PURCHASE RIGHT? CANT SEEM TO FIND THAT BUTTON YOUR TALKING ABOUT.

[Charley Lillard]

Nope... I went on the dealers word. I buy many cars sight unseen based upon someones word. I try to deal with people that stand behind what they sell and it usually works out great. As I recall, the vin on the Z28 in question is supposed to be down by the oil filter. Maybe Grusum can now check down there for a vin.

[69HURST]

YOU MAY ALSO RECALL THAT A FEW MEMBERS THAT HAVE 70 Z'S HAVE THE VIN ON TOP, OTHERS HAVE THE VIN DOWN LOW, THEY WENT BOTH WAYS. SM

[Stuart Adams]

Putting all the stuff in the add about have it inspected, etc. does not release your liability for representing the car. If you state facts about the car, they are your facts and that is the problem. If you state original engine then if it's not, you are responsible. If you said it might be then that is another story. Make the new owner a concession of some bucks and both learn and move on, IMO. Credibility matters most, can't get it back when gone. Do the right thing, trust me if these guys say the stamp is bogus it is.

[CamarosRus]

Charley, You're showing more restraint than I'm capable of. MR 69 HURST has stated his position, and now I find him just plain arrogant. His CAP LOCK B.S.is just plain disrespectful to everyone here (Still dont know why K.P. gets away it).....and he deserves a "time-out"
I am one of the 2nd Gen Legends Judges for the ACA Camaro Nationals at Carlisle. I have also been an expert witness in a Tacoma,WA court case, where a man bought a clone 70 Z-28, sold as real......never have claimed to know it all, however 70 Camaros are of a special interest to me.
All the 70 Norwood Z-28's I've inspected had there VIN #'s stamped on lower rear left bellhousing flange (see pic example below) staring with 10N5XXXXX. The block in question may or may not have a real VIN in that location, but VIN on deck has been added !!!!!!!!
L.A. Z-28's generally had there VIN's stamped on the deck.

[Stuart Adams]

I agree, Charley needs to release those velcro straps on his shoes once in a while and kick some boot.

[Rainer]

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... ALSO WERE YOU IN THE NORWOOD PLANT IN MAY OF 1970? I DIDNT THINK SO,,,

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You're right, Charlie wasn't at Norwood back then. But what's great is we've got some members here who worked for GM back in the day and who have been able to tell us about the VIN-stamping process. And from what we've learned the stamping on that Z doesn't pass muster.