Needing reassurance on purchase

[Grusum]

Scott, The "people" I am referring to are the people who actually did the work to the car, whomever they may be. I don't think that you had the car long enough to do much more than detailing and preparing it for re-sale.

By openly offering for people to have the car independantly inspected, as well as bringing attention to the trim tag, that only more reinforced to me that the car was legit. It's like War or Poker: Showing Weakness=Strength
Showing Strength=Weakness
If you offer something like that, it meant to me that it would obviously pass the test or why else would you bring it up. Hope this clears it up for you. By the way I'm still hoping you can find me that guy who wants the car so bad.

[Grusum]

HEY Scott, better yet, take the car back! I'll ship it, and I'll eat all of my expenses thus far,and we'll all chalk it up to a learning experience.
That is if you are confident you could sell it , you obviously have better contacts and resources than I do.

[Benny Arena]

As someone who flew all over the USA ,and Canada for that matter, to look for a 70Z28, I can understand you being frustrated here. I spoke with many people and got many pictures of cars and flew out on "trust me you see it you'll buy it" only to see real junk when I arrived there. Pictures only show so much as we see here. I think the car is a real Z28 and it is a shame what happened here. But when spending all the money for these cars you have to go look, in the long run its cheaper. If you can get past your first feelings about the car and have the time and funds to fix it-it can turn out to be a real nice car. Good luck in what ever you chose.

[EUGENE OREGON]

Grusum,
It was nice talking with you this morning on the phone. I'm sorry for you loss on your Camaro. I agree with 69HURST (yup), and lots of other guys. You should ALWAYS have a car inspected before purchase.
ESPECIALLY from "Milford Auto Sales" in Hopedale, Massachusetts. Scott has obviously gotten better at shading the truth to protect himself. Of course every car a dealer sells isn't bad, but Scott will shade it to sound like every one is good! We true "car guys" need to stick together and inspect cars for each other--and drive shady dealers out when we can.
Yes, I purchased a misrepresented car 3 years ago from Scott. NO ONE would have paid what I did if they had seen it! My $30k "done" car I'll have over $50k in it before I can actually drive it. That's $20k in just mechanical problems! I won't bore you with the details, if you want to know, search for him on www.complaints.com.
I got the same song and dance, all the things that make it sound like he cares and will settle. Then he tells you to f-off. I wouldn't hold out any hope that he will help you.

I hope he does do the "stand up" thing! Can we all say in unison: INTEGRITY?

[PeteLeathersac]

I've stayed out of this thread 'til now but I just went back to the original eBay auction to review how it was laid out....here's the link if anyone else wants to.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=4603329540

Here's a few comments....only an opinion from a simple car guy so please don't anyone attack. .
First off, I'm not saying Grusum is right because it's a buyer beware world and he did jump the gun and pass on the opinion of others. . Two, maybe not what he expected or worth what he paid, it appears he's got a real car there and a correct maybe even original motor that some foolish has dummy-stamped the pad? . So although not a 'flipper' for Grusum, hopefully he can enjoy working on the car improving it and in the long run the value will surpass what he paid. .
On to the seller....after reading the auction, I can't help but feel he knew more than he lets on now and avoided some points or worded around them carefully? . Worse was the disrespect in his postings here? .
That's it, good luck Grusum....hope to see your postings of progress on your car! ~ Pete

[Belair62]

I don't believe its a real Z 28...those gas pedal studs look kind of weird...

[Late BrakeU2]

"Contacting the seller: I talked to the seller the day the car arrived and told him of my disappointment with the car. Even the truck driver that delivered the car said, "This is a rough car!".

I have bought and sold cars,sight unseen,with sYc members and have had very pleasant experiences.When looking at ebay auctions one of the first things I look for(aside from hide and seek)is how candid the seller is.If he goes into detail about the faults and to a degree,understates the cars condition that tends to score high on my INTEGRITY meter.

The description of the car was pure babe in the woods fare,but clearly it should have been touched prior.That being said not everyone has the resources to fly all over inspecting cars.By the time you pay for air fare,rental,hotel etc that adds to the amount invested in the car(Yeah,a lot less than being a bagholder of bondo)but let's face it we all have rolled the dice at one time and hoped it would be boxcars not snake eyes.I would never purchase a collector car from "dealer" because rule #1 is never fall in love with the merchandise,and that can have ramifications with the code of ethics sometimes.JMHO

[mulsane71z]

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HEY Scott, better yet, take the car back! I'll ship it, and I'll eat all of my expenses thus far,and we'll all chalk it up to a learning experience.
That is if you are confident you could sell it , you obviously have better contacts and resources than I do.

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Sounds fair, especially seeing he has a buyer in Georgia...... Sorry about your luck......

Could you tell us more on the issue with being a "real Z" or not??????

[Grusum]

Coming soon,....... I just got off a stretch of 12hr night shifts, and need to get some Z's (NO PUN INTENDED!) Plus the weather here seems to be crapping out on us lately and I don't have any heat in my garage. Stay tuned folks....

[COPO427]

Gord, if the door weatherstrips are new then the doors will not shut easily with the windows up. I replaced mine in '85 with new GM strips and they are still tight even after adjusting the glass fuzzies etc.