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1)Has it been determined on THIS Yellow Norwood Z-28 that it has a 10N5xxxxx VIN number stamped on the Bellhousing Flange to match the alledged 10N5xxxxx on the transmission.
2) Has it been concluded that more than a few other Norwood 70 Z's had VIN # stamped on eng deck. I will ask most of the other 70 Z judges and "experts" at nastyZ28. 3)WHY would a born with eng with VIN stamp, NOT match the VIN stamp configuration of the Born with Transmission......IF in fact they are done with same stamping tool??????
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1)Has it been determined on THIS Yellow Norwood Z-28 that it has a 10N5xxxxx VIN number stamped on the Bellhousing Flange to match the alledged 10N5xxxxx on the transmission. 2) Has it been concluded that more than a few other Norwood 70 Z's had VIN # stamped on eng deck. I will ask most of the other 70 Z judges and "experts" at nastyZ28. 3)WHY would a born with eng with VIN stamp, NOT match the VIN stamp configuration of the Born with Transmission......IF in fact they are done with same stamping tool?????? [/ QUOTE ] 70 Camaro VIN will start with 124870N..... Muncie Example 70N553721 P0E08B 70 = 1970 N = Norwood 553721 = the last 6 digits of your VIN P = Muncie 0 = 1970 E = May 08 = day B = M21 (A=M20, B=M21, C=M22) Axle will be C00 or CRE for a 4.10 (last yr for 12 bolt) Engine pad will have: Example: V0101CTB - (V = Plant, 01 = Month, 01 = Day, CTB = Engine Suffix Code),1970 CTB 350 Z28. Also a partial VIN will be on the pad, IE 70N123456 Both tranny and engine will have the same 6 digit VIN as seen on the dash.
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I think CamarosRus' question means, the stamped locations should have the same alpha numerics and number of digits since they were stamped at the same time using the same gang stamp....all EXACTLY the same. . So a genuine factory stamping mistake would be on all locations? . ~ Pete
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I think CamarosRus' question means, the stamped locations should have the same alpha numerics and number of digits since they were stamped at the same time using the same gang stamp....all EXACTLY the same. . So a genuine factory stamping mistake would be on all locations? . ~ Pete [/ QUOTE ] The partial VIN will be a smaller stamp text size. 70N123456
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[ QUOTE ] I think CamarosRus' question means, the stamped locations should have the same alpha numerics and number of digits since they were stamped at the same time using the same gang stamp....all EXACTLY the same. . So a genuine factory stamping mistake would be on all locations? . ~ Pete [/ QUOTE ] The partial VIN will be a smaller stamp text size. 70N123456 [/ QUOTE ] I think you're referring to how the partial Vin stamp is smaller than the suffix/date stamp? . All partial Vin gang-stampings should be the same as each other since the same tool was used on each location. ~ Pete
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You'd think so
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Sample of a vette 1965 327/300
http://ww2.netnitco.net/users/rclark...e/padstamp.jpg 1965 vette http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-...2/IM001941.jpg It's unusual to find either an engine plant stamp or an assembly plant VIN stamp where the characters all have absolutely equal depth and definition; there were many variables involved in the length and wear of the individual dies, angle at which the holder was held, direction of the hammer blow, etc. Many restamps, however, are "perfect".
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You'd think so ![]() Prob done at different locations. [/ QUOTE ] Good example w/ this '73 unit shown....I can't figure out how to include pics? . Anyway, all 9 digits are on this example engine pad shown so would be exactly the same on the rest of the stamped partial Vin locations. . If one of the digits was upside-down or missing it would be the same on all other stamped partial Vin locations. . With the subject thread car missing the first two digits, if genuine the other locations should have the same mistake. ~ Pete
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Also a partial VIN will be on the pad, IE 70N123456 [/ QUOTE ] That is totally incorrect for a 1970 stamp. 70 does not indicate 1970. The correct stamp would be: 10N567890 1=Chevrolet 0=1970 N=Norwood 567890=Sequence number. Rick H. |