Camaro reveal news

[DarrenX33]

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But I don't know why people want a retro look so bad.

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Hey Jeff, ever wonder why they are still selling Mustangs and the Camaro and Firebird are on vacation?

[Jeff H]

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Hey Jeff, ever wonder why they are still selling Mustangs and the Camaro and Firebird are on vacation?

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Yeah, because of the dam union GM had. That's what's killing GM to begin with. People should be happy to have a job in today's world. There's no union at my company and guess what, we had our best year last year. But getting back to the cars, I haven't hear a single person in my office say the word Mustang in several weeks so that indicates that the novelty of the retro Stang is already wearing off. People drive Mustangs because it's a Ford 2 seat rear wheel drive car called Mustang. They always have and always will. And most of them don't even care for performance and get a 6 cyl. It was the first affordable pony car and the first car most people remember seeing when they were young. The Camaro has always been an underdog in terms of trying to match the Mustang sales and I don't think it ever will. As for this new Camaro, I hope they go down on the wheel size, round off the fender/quarter edges, alter the front nose/grill some. But even if they don't, it looks like a fun car to drive.

[DarrenX33]

I bet if the Challenger and Camaro go into production the Camaro gets left at the starting line. Heck let's start our own poll ...

[Jeff H]

If they went into production at the same time the Camaro would outsell it because the Challenger just doesn't have that big of a following. Same as the Mustang would outsell the Camaro even if the Mustang looked like a Yugo! People cling to the brand loyalty much stronger than you think. Heck, I've only ever owned Chevrolet cars(and 1 truck) and Toyota trucks(older stuff).

[DarrenX33]

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Same as the Mustang would outsell the Camaro even if the Mustang looked like a Yugo!

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[camarojoe]

Darren I hear ya, and agree that the Challenger initially has a "cooler" look IMO than the new camaro, basically because its a more familiar shape, and mimicks the 70-71 Challenger almost piece per piece, in everything from the interior to the body panels. That makes for a cool looking car, BUT what happens in 3 years when everyone who thinks a "new" 70 Challenger is cool already has one? How do they bring out the "next generation" car? Mustang is going to have the same problem... once you take a design backwards, its hard to move forwards again from there. The PT Cruiser was hot as fire when it first came out too, as was the new beetle... but aside from changing wheel designs and some mild facia updates, its difficult to totally "redesign" a car that is almost 100% retro in appearance. With the Camaro, while it has some retro touches, its still essentially a "modern" car, and can therefore be changed, updated, and evolve into a 6th or 7th generation. I also think this is why the Corvette avoided going too retro... once you go backwards with design, its hard to go forward again. Lets just say I'm just very glad to know they didn't just let the Camaro die, and I think it's gonna grow on alot of people who are hating on it right now... myself included.

[DarrenX33]

Agreed.

Another example. The T-bird....

[camarojoe]

Exactly... people thought that was cool too... for a year.