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Old 12-30-2005, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: 1967/1968 Dick Harrell funny cars

Mike Burkhart is another possibility...
(Can't see door blem due to the cars paint, but the spoiler matches.)
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Old 12-30-2005, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: 1967/1968 Dick Harrell funny cars

However, Tom did say he found the car in Illinois, correct?

Dekker was out of Colorado
Hodges and Polar Chevrolet, Minnesota
Huston Platt, Georgia
Burkart, Texas

According to the Dick Harrell website, he was in Illinois in 1967 and moved to Missouri sometime in 1968. Fred Gibb (one of the cars sponsors I believe) was in Illinois.

What are the chances of Tom's car being one of these others?
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Old 12-30-2005, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: 1967/1968 Dick Harrell funny cars

Here's one more of the other side of Platt's car. Notice the odd window set-up? The other Platt photos don't show this.
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Old 12-30-2005, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: 1967/1968 Dick Harrell funny cars

Yet another Dixie Twister photo. Notice how the openings in the front valance appear to be cut-out?

(Also notice the '67 Altered wheelbase Camaro in the far lane?)
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Default Re: 1967/1968 Dick Harrell funny cars

I wouldn't be too sure those were holes in the valence..More than likely paint..Wouldn't actual holes negate the oversize sheetmetal front spoiler all of these cars ran? The front spoiler I would think would help to keep air from getting under the car and creating unwanted lift. Same reason these cars sat very low on the track. Not to mention the front spoiler might in some way create downforce on the front end to keep nose down and an realtivly even although slightly rear biased weight transfer..

Race cars move around...wasn't ZL1 #1 at one point in TX or Fl?

As everyone can see there are quite a few 1968 cars that are very similar to Tom's car.

Was DH receiving any money or sponsorship from Fred Gibb in 1967 or 1968?
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Old 12-30-2005, 09:12 PM
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NO, Bill's # 1 ZL-1 was found in Des Moines ,Ia. Jim Cooper owned it. I use to watch in race at Eddyville,Ia I just about crapped when I found out in was the org. ZL-1. Des Moines is 149 miles from Laharp,Ill.
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I'm sorry..I was going off memory..I thought the car had been campagined or was going to be by a guy owning a Pizza Hut and he was somewhere south..


What about DH and Gibb in 1967 or 1968???

It is interesting to me that the 1967 DH car is shown with a black top..I would think he would have used that color scheme as his first color scheme on his 1968 car. But if he did and Tom's car is "Car 1" as he puts it..no door..how can that be..Wouldn't his first Car have the door like the 1967 car, which I don't think is in dispute? Why go from "door" (1967) to "no door" (TC's car), then back to "door" (Car 2 in Tom's hypothesis the burgundy car)???

Also is it possible that DH painted his cars in the same schemes as Gibb (look at Lil Hoss) because he received money or some sort of support there..After all the 1967 car while carrying both "Courtsey" and "Yenko" sponsorship was painted and looked very similar to "Lil Hoss" red/blk top, and Tom's "Car 2" looks like a very similar paint scheme to ZL1 #1 which was certainly a Gibb/Harrell collaboration. I guess I'm lost as the only way I can see Tom's hypothesis working is if his car is the first car and it has a door (which it doesn't).. he thinks his is Car 1 as well, However there isn't a door and general common knowledge, he evens makes reference to it in a previous post..about MB is this door..So if the Harrell, Burkhart, and Kirby cars were from the same mold and were identical..Where is the door?



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Default Re: 1967/1968 Dick Harrell funny cars

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Yet another Dixie Twister photo. Notice how the openings in the front valance appear to be cut-out?.(Also notice the '67 Altered wheelbase Camaro in the far lane?)

[/ QUOTE ] This is the same pic I posted earlier in this tread. I cropped and enlarged it. Look on page 3 for a better view.
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Also about the 1967 FC (Dicks 1st FC).. Look at the photos I posted. It is clearly a different car (body and chassis) than the 1968 car/cars.. What does the damn door and paint job have to do with the '67 car as compaired to the '68?? The '67 is a longer nose front engine setup that has lift off hood and poor fitting panels. It's NOT the same car as the '68 car. That's obvious.
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Old 12-30-2005, 09:05 PM
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I was reading on the Harrell site that Dave Libby stated the frame was not right because the cage was too high maybe the frame is for a cuda or a mustang.Quote "roll cage too tall for the body" Also the body quote "Body needs to be 3-4" lower" Please look at all of the cars on both sites. The front lower valance panel on Tom's car is level with the spindle!!! Look at the old pics and the new pics. There all the same height!!! I don't see any of the lower than the spindle.
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Old 12-30-2005, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: 1967/1968 Dick Harrell funny cars

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Mike Burkhart is another possibility...
(Can't see door blem due to the cars paint, but the spoiler matches.)

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Forgot about MB. From what I have read, his car was a twin to Dick's except for a working driver's door. Looking at him in the car makes it easy to see why the need for the door.


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