Does anyone agree with my view over at TC?

[Rick H]

I guess it would be best if I answered your original post and call it a day.

"Does anyone agree with my view over at TC?"

No, I do not.

Rick H.

[Racefan]

FWIW, I would agree that it is wrong to make a trim tag and place it in your car to make the tag match what you want the car to be. If you aren't trying to mislead, I can see no reason to alter the trim tag. Maybe you aren't trying to decieve, but someone down the line WILL be decieved and we'll have to hear about it. So, while I don't wish to get involved directly in any feud, I will voice my opinion that manufacturing a trim tag is WRONG. PERIOD. If someone has a reason that makes sense to any time that a reproduction (and custom made) trim tag would be appropriate....please enlighten me. On another similar post elsewhere, it was inferred that it was potentially questionable to make a duplicate trim tag LET ALONE A FAKE ONE. Why are there not more people stating thier feelings on this one?

[SuperNovaSS]

I totally agree that restamping parts does nothing but deceive. If a person is going through all the trouble so someone will look at a pad stamping or trim tag and not question the car, it is deception, plain and simple. I didn't say anything earlier because I like to watch Rick H run his mouth. Maybe this will help add fuel to Ricks neverending fire.


Jason

[Tenney]

Monopoly money v. counterfeit cash. Making a car look like another car, or the one "you wished you had", is one thing. To each their own. Falsifying the numbers/data plates/ documents to make the car "become" the one "you wished you had" might be deemed forgery to some (the lawyer of the guy you sold the car to, for example).

[Rick H]

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I totally agree that restamping parts does nothing but deceive. If a person is going through all the trouble so someone will look at a pad stamping or trim tag and not question the car, it is deception, plain and simple. I didn't say anything earlier because I like to watch Rick H run his mouth. Maybe this will help add fuel to Ricks neverending fire.


Jason

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Tired of the never ending hypocrisy.

Rick H.

[hep1966]

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Tired of the never ending hypocrisy.

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Agreed

[Stuart Adams]

You know sometimes people loose sight of what this car hobby/love is all about. I love the cars for what they represent or represented back then, culture, art, fun, etc. Meeting great people along the way.

All these continuing talks about making trim tags, POP's etc. just muddy the waters and I get tired of swimming in the pool after while. So with that said I am afraid as hell of the IRS and the Law, and making something that is against the law to the level of VIN's, Trims, etc. for a car does not even enter my mind as an option. Even if making something for a car was close to being against the law or not cool I wouldn't do it. I would be worried that me or someone else would get in trouble over the car I "restored". There are many more things to be worried about to be adding that to the list. That is my final answer.

[Xplantdad]

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You know sometimes people loose sight of what this car hobby/love is all about. I love the cars for what they represent or represented back then, culture, art, fun, etc. Meeting great people along the way.

All these continuing talks about making trim tags, POP's etc. just muddy the waters and I get tired of swimming in the pool after while. So with that said I am afraid as hell of the IRS and the Law, and making something that is against the law to the level of VIN's, Trims, etc. for a car does not even enter my mind as an option. Even if making something for a car was close to being against the law or not cool I wouldn't do it. I would be worried that me or someone else would get in trouble over the car I "restored". There are many more things to be worried about to be adding that to the list. That is my final answer.

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That's it exactly, Stuart...I agree with you 100%

[Johnny Horsepower]

The problem is 2 owners from now the car gets passed off as #s matching.
Making a car correct is fine. I see no need for forging vins. That is making a fake. Use all the right parts, but i disagree with trying to make it appear it is an original #s matching engine, tranny or rear end.

A side note, i discussed this before with a vette guy and complained of it being accepted in thier circles.
His response was that guys don't want to lose the points in Judging.....
That's like telling a proffessor "i cheated because i wanted an A"
can't condone vin or tag doctoring

John

[TimG]

You can no longer get a replacement trim tag through Bloomington or NCRS. You can get a replacement engine through both if it is prepared correctly. Kind of interesting that the engine can make it and the trim tag cannot.