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Old 12-04-2005, 11:26 PM
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For the money you have invested and the liabilty they should have, get your money back and get an attorney and DMV involved as well as the police....this should be enought of pressure that they give your money back and you find a real car...you will forever have to explain this tag issue if you are an honest person.

Others may have a different opinion....JMO
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Old 12-04-2005, 11:45 PM
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I plan to give them the choice of recinding the transaction (ie: cancelling the sale and refunding my money) or paying me an adjustment that better reflects the fact that now I've got a car that, if they had to relist, would have to be relisted as a car of unknown oringial status, with the wrong equipment, and a forged or missing trim tag.

I just don't know what the value should be... $28,500? NADA values are all over the map, as low as $16,388 for a standard V8 Camaro, which is all I know for sure.
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:50 AM
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JMO, mid 20's for the car if an adjustment is to be made, however, if that is the case and you get an adjustment, then the next owner that you try to get your mid 20's out of the car, will want a discount because the tag is not correct...and it continues. A big headache ....the car is beautiful in the pics...
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:52 AM
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At this point you have nothing to lose - get everyone involved starting with a lawyer. Worst case, you get an adjustment.
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Old 12-06-2005, 03:11 AM
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Spoke to the dealer this morning, and he offered to completely refund the purchase, which I think is a good offer. I said I would take the car for $28,500 (they originally listed it at $42,500, and I had paid $38,500). He said that have $37K into the car, but would refund $5000. I asked for $6000 back to make it $32,500. They mulled it for a while and agreed, on the condition that I sign a waiver indicating the vehicle was sold in "as-is" condition.

He seemed pretty confident that he could sell the car without the trim tag for $35K, which might be true. He's placing a lot of value on the fact that it has a 396 (numbers matching or not), but i've got a 396 under my workbench, so I guess I don't think of them as that valueable! Maybe I should starting buying 307 cars, sticking 396s in them and with $50 in badges from Year One, turn a profit :-)

In the end, regardless of what happened originally, I think these guys were pretty much a class act in their followup. They were polite, cordial, returned calls and answered emails, and of course, offered to revoke the deal at my choice. I'd have no hestitation buying from them again, though I'd place a lot less faith in the what the ad said and check things more closely on any car!

I've spent a lot of time researching Camaro values this weekend, and I think $32,500 is a decent price for the car. You can find them cheaper in rougher condition and you can pay a lot more to get numbers matching, but this seems to be a sweet spot.
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Old 12-06-2005, 03:22 AM
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I think you should take the full refund and with your newly obtained knowledge, find a real car you will be happy with.

(Or take the full refund, send the car back and wait a week and then walk in with $28,500 cash, your original offer, telling them that since the world knows its a fake car, they should sell it to you at that price to avoid any further bad publicity)
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Old 12-06-2005, 03:27 AM
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second the run with your dough..you would be hard pressed to get your dough back down the road...

more and more of these cars are being black balled by the net and when you decide to sell there may even be a web site for folks to check on funny cars and this one would be listed...just a little info to mull around before parting with your hard earned dough.

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