Rebodied cars and do they get certified

[PeteLeathersac]

So car # 1 is a donor body with it's donor car hidden Vin intact if you look....and the long gone ZL1's Vin and supposed trim tags attached to this donor body? . And all re-attaching of tags was done years ago by a known or unknown person? . Car # 2 basically gets the same treatment by Fred differing only by the fact he "firewalls" the car to include the hidden Vin at time of identity transfer. . Personal opinions again....first I feel both cars would be of interest to the Feds and at risk of having all tags pulled and confiscated and new Vins assigned, greatly devaluing the cars if that happened. . On the above choices, I'll pick D with a side of wondering if Fred is going to the jailhouse for what he does to cars?? ~ Pete

[moparts]

"I'll pick D with a side of wondering if Fred is going to the jailhouse for what he does to cars?? "

Ahhhhh but Fred didn't have anything to do with car 1 having non matching hidden numbers!

[Mr70]

Is "Freds" last name Bain?

[Born30YrsLate]

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Is "Freds" last name Bain?

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I can tell you it ain't Eichhorst.......that's me

[PeteLeathersac]

Yup...Fred may be in the clear legally for Car #1. . It's his #2 car that he'd be squirming on if the feds came calling? . He'd be on the hook financially pretty bad if the feds grab the tags and do a reissue Vin! ~ Pete

[PeteLeathersac]

Thinking again, E is maybe the better answer afterall? ~ Pete

[Supergas990]

My head is kinda spinning because the possibilities are endless.

Regardless of the legality issues (re-tag, rebody, etc...), when does a car become something so different from what rolled off GM's line that someone draws a distinction?

In my mind, the classifications are as follows:

"Survivor" (unmolested, left as time treated them) - The best IMO. Patina adds so much class - i.e. the Sandlin Duece

"Restored" (repaint, repair, refurbish) - Most cars fit this category in varying degrees. Can be anything from a nice driver to a 1,000 point trailer queen. Very nice cars with sheet metal replacement, fresh paint, drivetrain rebuilt, etc... This can include replacement of missing original drivetrain components with correct parts.

"Rebuilt" - Car with significant body rebuilding (clipping, firewalling, retaging, etc...)

In order to have a "restored" car you need to have worked with core to come up with an end product.

Trying to keep a complex topic simple isn't an easy task. With the big bucks in many complex restos the resulting product of a "restored" car is a project from the heart rather than the mind (if that makes any sense).

Deep inside most of us know right from wrong.

I'm taking cover now, so let the comments fly.

Blair

[Supergas990]

Wish I would've read Supercar Kids post prior to my response. He's headed my direction.

Blair

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I like that nomenclature, original vs restored vs rebuilt.

[PeteLeathersac]

Again it's all down to personal opinions just like any car deal for what something's worth....BUT the facts of the "redo" ARE on the table! . The right or wrong isn't hard for some but how many guys who transfer an identity in the process of the job want to point that out and prefer to call their car rebuilt, not restored? . This whole "restored TO original"....and things like "restoration motors" as a nice way to say restamp....it's "caveat empor" alright but deliberatly to take advantage of someone who's uninformed? . All personal opinions again of course. ~ Pete