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Old 11-10-2005, 02:30 PM
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1/4 panels, fenders, trunk lids, cowl induction hoods, weatherstrip, rocker moldings, bumpers, door handles, window cranks, dash carriers, seat trim, etc...(i'm sure many folks can add to this list) Every one of these items have visual and structural (and ofter fitment) differences between repro and original GM parts. I agree original GM stuff isnt always perfect, nor are over the counter pieces from GM always identical to factory installed stuff. Just saying its not gonna be hard to ID a repro body from a GM one.

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Will be real easy. Repop bodies will not have the Fisher Body date stampings. Once you know where to look it is easy to spot a repop.

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Old 11-10-2005, 03:54 PM
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Steve, The salt and snow will probably rot them into the ground, like most of the offshore repops that we deal with here at the shop.
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Old 11-10-2005, 08:01 PM
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Maybe. my case in point is I replaced a door skin with a chinese pos on my 69. stock fenders and rear quarters. The door gap on the top part up past the midpoint crease you could almost stick your little finger in, and all other gaps were good. I had to weld this up with a bead which is not good. I could put a GM door in the hole and it fit perfect. Do you have a vested interest in offshore panels?
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Old 11-10-2005, 08:11 PM
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Steve, The salt and snow will probably rot them into the ground, like most of the offshore repops that we deal with here at the shop.

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Ok,Ok ....no winter beater for me then.........LOL


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Old 11-11-2005, 04:30 AM
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No. I do not have a vested interest in off shore panels. However I do have a interest in this project. Like in any business there are certain companies that are trying to capitalize on the Muscle Car craze and build body parts and throw them in the market at a fast pace without doing much research or with little or no QC. There only goal is financial gain. Those companies are being singled out for there less than perfect part and eventually will be forced to build a better product or quit! Now, I own some original low mileage Camaro's that are fully documented with horrible panel spacing thru out the car. So, specifically on your Camaro maybe the door wasnt install correctly or maybe you purchased a door from a company as previously mentioned. And maybe you got real lucky when you put a GM door on and fit perfect.....but the bottom line Gentleman is that we are talking about a car that was massed produced in 1969 by GM and sorry to say the fit and finish was less than perfect.
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Old 11-11-2005, 04:37 AM
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Most of the steel bought for these body panels are purchased from Japan. Guess what...the same place most US companies purchase their steel. So I am curious, how is it that the reproduction parts made in Taiwan are going to rot faster than than the US parts?
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Old 11-11-2005, 04:55 AM
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Like in any business there are certain companies that are trying to capitalize on the Muscle Car craze and build body parts and throw them in the market at a fast pace without doing much research or with little or no QC. There only goal is financial gain

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So what's the next project on the drawing board for this company ? ?
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Old 11-11-2005, 04:57 AM
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I make my living doing Quality Control......Almost all manufacturing I see is done the same way,hurry up and get it done.We(the mfg)don't have time to make it right to begin with.BUT, we sure do have the time to make it again and again and again.What an assbackwards concept.It takes just as much time and money to make it right from the start. You hit the nail on the head talking about QC....There is NONE.The QC is all done outside the plant by you an me struggling to assemble substandard parts and later complaining to the mfg.....I've been fighting the quanity over quality concept for years.It falls on deaf ears....the customer needs it NOW.Same thing with the repop market,they sell it and you need it.....Welcome to todays MFG...


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Old 11-11-2005, 05:03 AM
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Most of the steel bought for these body panels are purchased from Japan. Guess what...the same place most US companies purchase their steel.

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Most of our structural steel is bought from Canada (sad[no offense intended ],but it's not Japan)......sheet metal and alloys are always local.....

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Old 11-11-2005, 08:18 AM
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No offense taken. Its obvious I misread my research and appreciate the correction. I certainly don't want to mis-lead anybody with faulty data. Whether imported from Canada, Mexico, or Japan I simply was trying say that I don't believe that imported metal rots faster than domestic metal....however it is apparent that you may have better knowledge about that also.
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